Learning to Look

[Bananafish]

Hello Charles. :)

I feel a lot closer to me in this moment with all the senses going.

When you say "I feel a lot closer to me,"
What are "I" and "me" in this sentence?



Warm regards,



Bananafish

[charleshyde]

Thoughts that when examined point at something not found. But thery are stronger and more abundant in the present moment than as memories - although these can seem powerful tool.

[Bananafish]

Sorry, Charles, the last post you posted didn't make sense to me.


What are stronger and more abundant?


Do you mean that "I" and "me" are not found anywhere?
Then, what does the sentence "I feel a lot closer to me" mean?



Bananafish

[charleshyde]

I just mean there are more thoughts of 'I'ness in the present moment than as a memory. I'll try to write plainer - it's a habit of using long words ☺

[Bananafish]

Hi Charles!

I just mean there are more thoughts of 'I'ness in the present moment than as a memory. I'll try to write plainer - it's a habit of using long words ☺

No worries. :)
Could you tell what "thoughts of 'I'ness" is?



Best wishes,


Bananafish

[charleshyde]

'I'Ness is my way of describing the sense of an identity, a thinker, an owner of thoughts, emotions and sensations. Memories are vague and often clearly to be distrusted but questioning the sense of a doer in the present seems a bigger job.

[Bananafish]

Hi!

'I'Ness is my way of describing the sense of an identity, a thinker, an owner of thoughts, emotions and sensations. Memories are vague and often clearly to be distrusted but questioning the sense of a doer in the present seems a bigger job.

Can you feel "the sense of an identity (or doer)" right now?

Is that a thought? Imagination? Bodily sensations? Or else?
How do you perceive it?



Best wishes,



Bananafish

[charleshyde]

I can't feel it - there are feelings being felt but not by a me. I just got frustrated during a presentation I was making and said something I shouldn't have. I felt bad. This is emotion, thought. I feel heavy in my feet. Thoughts like - soldier on occurring. Imagining further problems.

[Bananafish]

Hi Charles!

I can't feel it - there are feelings being felt but not by a me. I just got frustrated during a presentation I was making and said something I shouldn't have. I felt bad. This is emotion, thought. I feel heavy in my feet. Thoughts like - soldier on occurring. Imagining further problems.

Is the sense of identity imagined,
inferred from all these sensory imputs?



Warm regards,



Bananafish

[charleshyde]

I reckon identity becomes a thing when it is thought about. I'm like this - this will happen if I don't do that etc. So I suppose the more thoughts there are like this, the stronger the sense of a doer is. It's not like I have a clear sense of self though. Just some thoughts that are to do with that subject which I am now questioning.

[Bananafish]

Hi Charles. :)

I reckon identity becomes a thing when it is thought about. I'm like this - this will happen if I don't do that etc. So I suppose the more thoughts there are like this, the stronger the sense of a doer is. It's not like I have a clear sense of self though. Just some thoughts that are to do with that subject which I am now questioning.

Oh, please don’t suppose anything. :). Instead, observe what is here and now,
right in this moment.



Is it true that something like “sense of doer” really exists?
Or are you inferring it from the thoughts about the “I,” which are thoughts about thoughts?



Kind regards,



Bananafish

[charleshyde]

I don't believe "sense of doer" exists other than as a thought. It can't be found with any of the other senses.

[Bananafish]

I don't believe "sense of doer" exists other than as a thought. It can't be found with any of the other senses.

Is there any “doer?”

[charleshyde]

I don't know - could you help me to look for a doer or absence of one again, perhaps in another way - if I were to say no doer now I feel I wouldn't really know what I was saying. Feels like a step into the unknown.

[Bananafish]

Hi Charles!

I don't know - could you help me to look for a doer or absence of one again, perhaps in another way - if I were to say no doer now I feel I wouldn't really know what I was saying. Feels like a step into the unknown.

That’s great, indeed!
You don’t know. Now,if you don’t know anything, can you say that
there is a doer? Yes or no?



Walk around, and while walking, please try to find the one that is
walking. Where is it? Is there an entity that’s moving the legs?



Best wishes,



Bananafish