Say "I". What does that point to?

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby Elena » Tue Nov 22, 2011 9:23 pm

Oki doki. Come back and write what you see, what is "I".

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby jimmy » Wed Nov 23, 2011 5:33 pm

“I” is the word which is used to refer to a “sense” of self which seems to be experiencing life as a separate entity. “I” personalizes life experience. Once this “idea” is believed, it is self-reinforcing. “We” live “our” life from that perspective of being a someone. Because we never question this first premise of being a “someone,” life is played out as the drama of yours and mine, success and failure and the life and death of this “I”.

When looked for, “I” cannot be found. Mind is constantly registering experience and then generating an interpretation of the experience as part of the organism’s supporting operation of survival. As thoughts and feelings arise, they can be personalized, thereby reinforcing the illusion of self, or, they can simply be seen as a function of mind. This is what mind does. “I” is seen as the concept it is and allowed to arise without identification.

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby Elena » Wed Nov 23, 2011 10:30 pm

This question I asked several times. Ya? Let's try again and see whats comes up:

Do you exist?

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby Elena » Thu Nov 24, 2011 6:38 am

Thanksgiving! Thank you, Jimmy! For being here.

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby jimmy » Fri Nov 25, 2011 1:24 pm

Thanks, Elena. I wish you and yours the best.

O.K. "Do you exist?" No. It's strange to have that question asked and then to answer it with no "one" existing. The previous post on "I" seems to contain most of the answer. What enables "us" to ask and answer these questions? Mind. This is what mind does, asking and answering questions, endlessly. Mind registers sense input, interprets it and offers up possible connections to an endless stream of thoughts, ideas and beliefs. I do not exist as a someone. I am not. There is no "I" running the show or living "this" life.

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby Elena » Sat Nov 26, 2011 6:13 am

This is all great, Jimmy. Is there any relief from seeing this? What I want to hear, probably more how do you feel now. I am just curious, it already goes beyond what I needed you to answer. I am just curios about feeling, any feeling that is new that was not before. Look if any new feeling present, if not, thats ok too. It's nothing in particular I mean, just curios. And I will tell you, I feel such a relief for you to see that there is nothing really to search, nothing that is not here already. Only expectations were veiling this from you. I wanted you to see this so much, I became angry on you when you left. Not really angry, but there was sadness that I couldn't point you clearly enough. Since then I relaxed a lot about it, guided about 30 people all together, so I trust whatever is going on, in any form it is presented. It is more calm now then fire, that was before. Both are just beautiful expressions. I appreciate you came back. Love you, Jimmy.

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby jimmy » Sat Nov 26, 2011 4:58 pm

There is a feeling of lightness created by the absence of drama. Once thoughts are no longer identified with, they simply rise and fall with no attachment. There’s also an emptiness which is a continual surprise. Without an agenda or plan, there is a curiosity, a wondering if anything will ever be initiated or done ever again. And, there are lots of random tears which well up out of nowhere.

Dearest Elena, I want to thank you and Ilona and the others in your group who offer and encourage others to “look” for themselves. It’s hard to believe that from earliest childhood we are directed outward to endless sources of information; from parents to teachers and peers, then books and endless outside authorities. Never is it even suggested that we look for ourselves, let alone trust what we do find. I lost my sister in an automobile accident when she was 31. Her name was Ellen. Now, look here, I have a sister named Elena. Could this all be any more magical and amazing? Stay tuned.

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Re: Say "I". What does that point to?

Postby Elena » Sun Nov 27, 2011 5:23 am

I appreciate, Jimmy! Love to you and your family, your wonderful son, and your band friends!
Your sista.


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