On a spiritual journey.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Fri Jun 29, 2018 12:54 pm

a thought will come in and then the separate self will receive the thought and then think about it.

Did you actually observe it?
Could you tell where this "separate self" receives a thought?

How does it receive a thought?


Yes I can catch the moment it created labels.

Again, where does the "separate self" create labels?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Fri Jun 29, 2018 5:32 pm

a thought will come in and then the separate self will receive the thought and then think about it.

Did you actually observe it?
Could you tell where this "separate self" receives a thought?

Yes I observed it.
Its feels like it receives a thought inside the head

How does it receive a thought?
It feels like it just comes in from nothingness


Yes I can catch the moment it created labels.

Again, where does the "separate self" create labels?
It feels like it creates them from the mind.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Fri Jun 29, 2018 9:58 pm

Its feels like it receives a thought inside the head

Did you see the inside of your head?
Was a self there, receiving a thought that
appeared from nowhere?

This means that you actually observed it.

It feels like it creates them from the mind.

Please tell me where mind is.
If you were to show me the mind, how
would you do it?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Sat Jun 30, 2018 6:35 pm

Its feels like it receives a thought inside the head

Did you see the inside of your head?
Was a self there, receiving a thought that
appeared from nowhere?


No I didnt see the inside of my head but it felt like thats where the thought came from as thoughts are electrical impulses in the brain.

I dont think there was a self that received the thought. There was just a thought that appeared from an electrical impulse.
This means that you actually observed it.

It feels like it creates them from the mind.

Please tell me where mind is.
If you were to show me the mind, how
would you do it?
Id say mind is another word for these electrical impulses in the brain, so I would point to my head :)

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:17 pm

No I didnt see the inside of my head but it felt like thats where the thought came from as thoughts are electrical impulses in the brain.

I dont think there was a self that received the thought. There was just a thought that appeared from an electrical impulse.
This means that you actually observed it.


No. This is not "feeling like," guessing, or thinking about it.
Did you see, smell, hear, touch, taste that "electrical impulse?"
Or, is that rather a concept that you acquired from someone / somewhere?




Id say mind is another word for these electrical impulses in the brain, so I would point to my head :)


Do you see the "electrical impulses" where you pointed at?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Sat Jun 30, 2018 9:42 pm

No I didnt see the inside of my head but it felt like thats where the thought came from as thoughts are electrical impulses in the brain.

I dont think there was a self that received the thought. There was just a thought that appeared from an electrical impulse.
This means that you actually observed it.


No. This is not "feeling like," guessing, or thinking about it.
Did you see, smell, hear, touch, taste that "electrical impulse?"
Or, is that rather a concept that you acquired from someone / somewhere?

No but I just know its happening as its not a concept I acquired from somewhere. It is a fact that thoughts are electrical impulses. Its science.




Id say mind is another word for these electrical impulses in the brain, so I would point to my head :)


Do you see the "electrical impulses" where you pointed at?
No but I know they are there in the brain.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Sat Jun 30, 2018 11:07 pm

No but I just know its happening as its not a concept I acquired from somewhere. It is a fact that thoughts are electrical impulses. Its science.


Does this mean, even before you learned how to talk,
you knew that thoughts are "electrical impulses"?


Can you tell me what you mean by something being a fact because its "science?"


No but I know they are there in the brain.



Would you elaborate?
How do you know it?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Sun Jul 01, 2018 4:57 pm

No but I just know its happening as its not a concept I acquired from somewhere. It is a fact that thoughts are electrical impulses. Its science.


Does this mean, even before you learned how to talk,
you knew that thoughts are "electrical impulses"?

No not before I learnt to talk but they were still electrical impulses.

Can you tell me what you mean by something being a fact because its "science?"

It means that its proven by science.. just as gravity holds us down. we know this to be true because its been proven.

No but I know they are there in the brain.



Would you elaborate?
How do you know it?
Because theyve been shown to fire off in the brain by science .. just as the amygdala has been shown to store memory and is responsible for anxiety disorders. Im getting confused with all of this :( I do appreciate you taking your time to help though. Im just scratching my head with it all right now :(

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Sun Jul 01, 2018 9:53 pm

Again, could you tell me how you learned that thoughts are electrical impulses?

From your own experience, or from what someone said?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:10 am

Again, could you tell me how you learned that thoughts are electrical impulses?

From your own experience, or from what someone said?
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From scientific studies that have been done, so def not from my own experience.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Tue Jul 03, 2018 11:23 am

From scientific studies that have been done, so def not from my own experience.

I'd like you to focus on your own experience; what's happening here and now.
Please observe the thoughts that come up. Are they electrical impulses?

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Tue Jul 03, 2018 6:00 pm

From scientific studies that have been done, so def not from my own experience.

I'd like you to focus on your own experience; what's happening here and now.
Please observe the thoughts that come up. Are they electrical impulses?

There are things happening.. the television is on and the thoughts are about the football coming up :) I dont perceive the electrical impules.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Wed Jul 04, 2018 1:06 pm

There are things happening.. the television is on and the thoughts are about the football coming up :) I dont perceive the electrical impules.

Now, please tell what mind is from your own experience.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby LightOne » Wed Jul 04, 2018 6:30 pm

There are things happening.. the television is on and the thoughts are about the football coming up :) I dont perceive the electrical impules.

Now, please tell what mind is from your own experience.

In my experience mind is my ego attaching to images and stories of either the past or future.

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Re: On a spiritual journey.

Postby Bananafish » Wed Jul 04, 2018 9:50 pm

In my experience mind is my ego attaching to images and stories of either the past or future.

What is ego in your own experience?


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