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[Bill]

Joe, for sure the body is there.
But the I, the me, the entity, that's what maybe we're not exactly sure of.
This is what has been taken for granted for so long and believed.
Is it true?
We've seen how we're really not sure if there is an I controlling the thoughts or the body.
Convention tells us that for sure, I am in control.
But are we really?
Who is in control?
Do we know?

As you go through your day today and move around, see if you can find that there is a self moving things around.
Look for this I.
As you talk, walk, drive, eat, type, check it out.
Is there a self living your life? Or are all the thoughts about all of these things, including the I apparently living your life?
You don't have to decide or believe anything at all, just look at whats true for you.
In life, in all your actions, keep returning to this focus on the thoughts as you move around.
Simply keep checking if there is something real, besides a thought, that owns and directs the body.

Write back what you find. Keep LOOKING, checking to see what is there.

Is there an entity in charge?

Also: ponder this little saying....
what does it mean, if anything to you...
no rush on all this... end of the day is fine.

Well its a very simple thing that needs to be resolved...
There is this thought, I,... and once you see that I is just a thought
And you see that thought itself does not think
It clicks!
Its very very simple.

[Socal]

I think I'm getting it that I is just made up of thoughts

[Bill]

I think I'm getting it that I is just made up of thoughts

Joe - can you expound on that?

Is there a you, anywhere?

[Bill]

Hi Joe - how's it going?

[Socal]

Hi Billy just been busy with life and thinking about the I .. seems like when I look j find no actual I

It literally is all just thoughts and body sensations... memories of the past and expectations of the future.
I see how there is freedom in this...right il until my work situation or daughter pisses me off..then I get
Caught back in the story.

[Socal]

There is no me just thoughts about a "me"
... Kind of shocking actually. Trying to see how this affects daily life

[Socal]

Seems like my thoughts moment on what's happening and happened and what it thinks will happen
And I have been calling that me.. I have been observing myself or my body and yes it seems as if "I'm
Along for the ride and sometching else is in control..

[Bill]

Hi Billy just been busy with life and thinking about the I .. seems like when I look j find no actual I

There is no me just thoughts about a "me"
... Kind of shocking actually. Trying to see how this affects daily life

Seems like my thoughts moment on what's happening and happened and what it thinks will happen
And I have been calling that me.. I have been observing myself or my body and yes it seems as if "I'm
Along for the ride and sometching else is in control..

Joe - just keep LOOKING like you have been.
Can you find an I?
Is it there?
LOOK.

It's very simple. there's no I, just what is going on in every moment.
There's no you!
there's nothing that needs to be done or gotten really.
It's just right in front of you.

LOOK like a child looks...with innocence.

take a look at this video...watch it a couple time...its' excellent
on how to LOOK.

http://youtu.be/wyNwhK2Ur1c

This I is seen through but not destroyed.
Don't worry, there will still be some of it left
Haven't met anyone yet that doesn't has some sense of self left.
But things just don't seem to stick to it like they used to.

Let me know how you're doing daily.
Or if you're stuck... I think you're very close right now....

Later.

[Socal]

question.. i have been really stressed out over a situation with my sister.. how does this apply to that situation.. or is it a matter of there is no me so there is no stressed out me .. just stress happenning? iether way feeling is still here.. can you help me with this ?

[Socal]

funny enough part of me knows this is part of a story.. but the other part think its very real..

[Bill]

question.. i have been really stressed out over a situation with my sister.. how does this apply to that situation.. or is it a matter of there is no me so there is no stressed out me .. just stress happenning? iether way feeling is still here.. can you help me with this ?

funny enough part of me knows this is part of a story.. but the other part think its very real..

Joe - life goes on.
We call it Life, lifeing.
It just flows. We go with it...or resist.
Either way it still goes...
The I is not destroyed, we just see thru the illusion.
Stressful stuff will still be here.
We still interact with the world.
Yes - it is all a story..
we look, see something, its labeled and a story comes forth.
Look at your own thinking and you'll see that's the case.

Two questions for you Joe:

1) Is there a 'you' that exists?

2) What is the way for Joe to deal with his sister, the way that would be
of maximum benefit to both Joe and sister?

[Socal]

Wow... Great question.... Been thinking about it..


Is there a me? Well i cant find one... Just thoughts past and future. Kind of amazing... Still ruminating on question two... What should the character Joe do? Tough one. I woukd say talk to his sibling for the good of the relationship..

[Socal]

I was very upset about my sister today.. I was just sitting here thinking who is actually upset? Who is upset ? This character is.. When i meditate there is no joe .. And its joe thats upset... I think im making a little progress in seeing whats always been here...

[Bill]

Joe - I think we did go over this before....
this is not really a life improvement program.
So things like dealing with people that have been troublesome to us
may or may not be easier.

It looks like you are very close... can you tell me a bit more
of what is going on for you concerning the self, I, etc.
I can only tell where you are from what you write here.
do you feel like you have a different perspective?
If not, what are you stuck on?

Bill

[Socal]

The I although very convincing ... Doesn't exist ... Sometimes I
Realize it ... Sometimes I get caught up in it. When I realize it things seem lighter
And not so serious. There is a character created by my thoughts and other peoples thoughts called "joe"
....