Just this

[Artst]

Dear Lulu,

At this point, I'd like to share with you the Bahiya Sutra.

Bahiya Sutra

In the seen, there is only the seen,
in the heard, there is only the heard,
in the sensed, there is only the sensed,
in the cognized, there is only the cognized.
Thus you should see that
indeed there is no thing here;
this, Bahiya, is how you should train yourself.
Since, Bahiya, there is for you
in the seen, only the seen,
in the heard, only the heard,
in the sensed, only the sensed,
in the cognized, only the cognized,
and you see that there is no thing here,
you will therefore see that
indeed there is no thing there.
As you see that there is no thing there,
you will see that
you are therefore located neither in the world of this,
nor in the world of that,
nor in any place
betwixt the two.
This alone is the end of suffering.

Let me know what you see. No rush.

Love,
Robyn

[Lulu]

Hi Robyn,

Thank you for the Bahiya Sutra.
I've always thought it was beautiful - but now there's a feeling that its meaning is finally being "lived".
So simple and clear.

There is only seeing, hearing, experiencing, with no self at the centre (or anywhere else).
Just Life unfolding - and all else is nothing but thought.

peace
xx
Lulu

[Artst]

Hi, Lulu,

It's lovely that the meaning of the Bahiya Sutra has deepened for you.

Back to something you wrote earlier --

The bounds of this field of experience are literally all there is to the universe at that moment.

In the seen, there is only the seen...what part of the seen informs that this is all there is?

Love,
Robyn

[Lulu]

Hi Robyn,

what part of the seen informs that this is all there is?

Ah, the only thing that 'informs' is a thought.
Thought is coming in and trying to describe direct experience using too much language, I think :)

"This is all there is," = a thought = mind trying to conceptualise or to explain.
In raw experience, seeing = Seeing!

What seeing is like right now: Colours - thought says this is hands moving on keyboard - light, dark, shine, reflection. The seeing is direct, sharp, immediate. There is clarity and transparency. No barriers in the way of seeing. No entity doing the seeing. Just seeing happening. Words appearing on the screen (dark and light, movement). Effortless.

Life mostly happens like this in recent days. Thoughts and emotions arise, but are seen more clearly. "Selfing" happens but is also seen and there is less and less engagement. More simple enjoyment.
Today at work there were challenging situations and a sense of "I" trying to deal with them. Soon it was seen that this sense was made of tension in the face, chest and back muscles + thoughts of an I who had to fix the issues.
Immediately, the tension melted, the I was seen to be non-existent and the "ownership" faded away. There was a sense of space and calm. The problems got solved anyway! :)

sending love!
x
Lulu

[Artst]

Hi, Lulu,

Wonderful!

Is there anything else you would like to explore here?

Much love,

Robyn

[Lulu]

Thank you Robyn, I'm sure there is a lot more to explore, and deepen.

But in terms of the focus of this forum - seeing through self - I have no questions at all.
I can't imagine ever being tricked again (except perhaps momentarily!) by the concept of a separate self.

Thank you once again for the wonderful gift of your kind patience and wisdom in guiding me.
I am so grateful.

Love,
Lulu
Xx

[Artst]

Hi, Lulu,

You are so welcome! It has been a complete pleasure guiding you. I learned and grew from the experience, so it has been a two-way street. :-)

Somebody from the admin team will contact you and add you to LU Aftercare. You can contact me any time if you feel stuck or need help. My Facebook name is Robyn Goldfarb Jamison: https://www.facebook.com/robynartist
You can friend me and reach me there and also message me via Facebook Messenger.

One day you may become a Liberation Unleashed guide too, if that's something that appeals to you. I think you'd be good at it.

Sending lots of love! <3

Robyn

[Lulu]

Wonderful, thank you!
I would love to one day be able to guide others and give them the gift you've given to me.

xxx

[Artst]

Lulu,

My pleasure!

I look forward to lots of self-less sharing with you!

Love,
Robyn

[Artst]

Lulu,

Quick note - your thread will be archived and you will still be able to read it in the archives.

As my guide told me, be gentle with yourself.

Love,
Robyn