If you are ready, come in..

[MerlinC]

at first today I was unwilling to be aware because of being in a bad mood and then I tryed to and it feels as if a long time ago I decided that the sky was the future and the ground the past and the middle now but theys impressions of time came to me in thought and when Im really on the ball that doesent happen and I enjoy the present when no one else does because they assume the dream of thought is themand notice whats in front of them which is a very comfortable place.

[Ilona]

How is it going? What else are you noticing? Is there a me at all anywhere?

[MerlinC]

how are you?

[Ilona]

I'm great, thanks. How are you? Still trying to get it or is it all clear now?

[MerlinC]

Im good thanks. I know the thoughts about me are not me just thoughts but when I become present thoughts become almost distant but thare there after and I believe in them again as self. whats your take on this? do you have a facebook haha?

[MerlinC]

I dont think I seen it yet

[Ilona]

No you haven't seen it yet. There is still a you that thinks there is something to see so me can get liberated. What is that I that believes in thoughts? Is it not another thought appearing effortlessly? Is I thought something that believes in other thoughts? How does that work then? Can one thought believe in another or they arise one after other? see what is true here. Write what answers come up. But don't just answer from what you read or heard, write as you see it now..

[MerlinC]

The I or me is another thought that is believed to be in control and is always followed by a thought in relationship with it as do all thoughts. thoughts comment about comments one after the other all the time without force. the me feels highly personal and I couldn't imagine not having it.

[Ilona]

ok, this is not going anywhere. you do not exist. face it. face this and work it out. there is no you at all in reality. thoughts about me are not me. there is nothing personal, just thoughts about personal. literally. there is no perceiver, just thoughts about perceiver. there is perceiving happening to no one.

is there a feeler? or just thought about feeler?
when you close your eyes and just sit with feeling, is it happening to you? look at the feeling as if you do not know what that is, where it is coming from, notice, it's an energy that is in the body, and is not happening to anyone.

take your time to ansewer. take a look and face it. this is not a game, if you want to see, you have to set your intention right and actualy do the math.

[MerlinC]

your right, thoughts are independent of them selfs so is movement and feeling all are parts and not me just labels and story of a person.

[Ilona]

So what is that I then? Has it for a function? What is its job?

[MerlinC]

I is used in speech/language because it points to the individual whose speaking. But a me seems so true because of mentle content to back it up but its only ideas and they crumble apart when asked if thare true or not like asking am I my body. its all very tricky.

[Ilona]

And how is word me any different from word I? It's also used in speech, just the same.

What does this word me point to?

Keep digging. I know it's slippery, but the only way out from delusion is through honest investigation
Looking forward to your answer. And please consider, that there is no 'me' at all.

[MerlinC]

me and I are the same pointing to the flesh and bone person. its just a signpost but how did the sign post begin to take a life of its own?

[Ilona]

You tell me. How did that happen and when.