Hi Daniel,
Hi 0Kay, nice to meet you.
:-)
i´m 0kay and if you like we can look for some more questions.
I´m German. Sometimes my English is a bit strange, so please ask when you feel the need.
No problem, I am Uruguayan, English is my second language, so same thing as you. If you see some strange English from me, ask me. No problem.
I know that you have seen much, that you are really looking for questions and that the answers come instantly.
Ok, I was looking I think after I was 17 years old, maybe earlier without knowing it. I have stopped, then search again thousands of times.
Sometimes together with thoughts, you can tell it and then we can have a look for them.
Cool
Who will have the benefit in passing the gateless gate?
I see that clearly, that there’s no self, no one to pass the gate.
And I know that what I think I am it is not, I don’t exist as a person, is not permanent. It’s an idea, a thought.
Is there one or more higher self?
Please explain and look for it when writing.
Ok, here is the confusion, I will try to tell you what is the understanding that is happening here.
There’s like a weird difference between my logic thinking and what is being felt or experienced.
My “logical thinking” sees that there’s nothing.
Nature is just moving, doing what it needs to be done and there’s no experiencer.
That’s what my logic says, no self. Nothing, nada.
But…. there’s always a but
:-P
What I see in my experience is that even when my identity is fake, is created. There’s no one doing anything. I feel that “nature”, that the “energy that moves the world”, whatever you wanna call it, Tao, Christ Consciousness, Zen, Buddha mind, universe, it doesn’t matter the names because those are labels. That exists and creates everything, even what we do is controlled by that energy. So, for me saying there’s nothing is like it doesn’t work.
I understand there’s nothing in the sense that there’s not a self doing anything. It’s just nature doing what it needs to do and the self tries to appropiate or take ownership of what nature is doing.
But anyway I feel that there’s a “higher self” I don’t wanna call it like that because I am not sure if it is a self. It’s something that it can’t be named and that “higher self” it’s us. It’s everything.
But in fact there’s no higher self or lower self. We see it a separated things, like the ego, the no self, the higher self, the lower self, the I AM. Everything is a label. That is only one. It can't be explained with words.
And when I say there’s nothing , nothing is a label too. I think is not possible to say there’s no-self, because the opposite is true either. There's no self, I see it as a belief too. And the idea of there's self is another belief. Even the idea of no no-self is a belief. And I can find how to grasp the truth, I don't know how to "see" that.
(I know there’s no one to see it)
:-P
Thanks 0kay for reading this thread, and for your help!
Daniel
