I am ready for guidance

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Quetzal
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Re: I am ready for guidance

Postby Quetzal » Tue May 31, 2016 5:03 pm

Hello V,

Thanks for your lovely replies.
Is it bad to want to feel that you're part something bigger or want to feel comfort with the idea of a protective God?
I wouldn't say it's good or bad. Is just that the purpose of this forum is to explore the idea of "I", so we want be clear that we are not identifiying with something else, loke an as "I" in disguise ;)

When you say:
The only thing I can control is my reaction to my emotions.
I just would ask, if we already saw that there is no "I", what exactly is that which claims control over the emotions?

Xx
R.
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Re: I am ready for guidance

Postby memor26 » Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:19 am

Hi Rafael,
When you say:
The only thing I can control is my reaction to my emotions.

I just would ask, if we already saw that there is no "I", what exactly is that which claims control over the emotions?
True. If there's no "I" then there's no "I" to control emotions. But then what's the reaction to emotions? For example,"I" am driving and another person cuts me off on the road and then "I" have a fit of road rage. If there is no "me", my anger doesn't stem from "me", the construct & personal identity of V; my anger stems from my brain interpreting the situation as a stressor and the emotion of "anger" pops up as a response, right? If "I" get out of the car and start to argue with the person, my neurons are telling my muscles to get up and they are telling my vocal chords to shout at the person? I'm just a bunch of cells with bacteria & viruses reacting to the environment? I just have a conscious to be aware of my own existence as a whole but not can't fantom its parts?

This is still hard to swallow. I feel like I get it on an intellectual level but it's hard to understand on a deeper level. I'm slowly getting there but I have many old habits. I'm still attached to the idea of "me" as a person because I'm getting something out of it. "To be Special", "To be an Individual" "To be different": those are the ideologies that are valued in my society.

It took over 20 years of identifying with "me" so I guess it will take time to breakdown the construct down.

I also feel so limited with the English language to express what I want to say without referring to an "I" or "me". It's so ingrain in language.

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Re: I am ready for guidance

Postby Quetzal » Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:20 am

Sure! There are so many habits, and they won't disappear even when we see that there is nothing behind creating and controlling them. Anger, bliss, love, all this emotions still there but it's something behind them? We already saw the trick.
Once the I is deconstructed and seen for what it is, we can still exploring the territory from this new perspective. It can be like a new beginning.

I'll just check a couple of things with other guides, and I'll be back soon.

Thanks for your time and effort that you've been putting on this investigation!

Much love, V.
Rafael.


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Re: I am ready for guidance

Postby Quetzal » Thu Jun 02, 2016 4:06 am

Hello V!

I already checked that we covered the main points on this investigation and I think you agree, we can finish this process. Of course, if you want to carry on exploring things, please send me a private message. In any case, I´m adding you to the unleashed forum and if you have a Facebook account, I can share with you what we call the aftercare groups, in which you will find more people that have seen the same than you. In there you will be able to explore more into your own experience and to know the experience of others. Please tell me if this is ok for you and I´ll send the invitations to you.

Thanks a lot for your time and effort, V. It has been a delight to explore this together.

Much love.
R.
No snowflake
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in the wrong place.


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