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Dahshal
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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:24 pm

3. and that there is no state of ‘true beingness’
for this statment what come to the mind is: yes maybe there is no "state of beingness" but there is beingness which is possible to be attain .

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:33 pm

4. and that there is no ‘mind to quieten’
for this question the sound shows in the mind is : maybe there is no ‘mind to quieten’ because there is no mind and what we called mind is only a collection of thoughts and feelings and all are illusion.but still there is another idea say that if "you" let go of this illsion then quietness will come .
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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Sun Dec 20, 2015 12:17 am

Hi Dahshal,

When replying do not press ‘SUBMIT’ after each answer. Answer everything first (all questions), and write everything you want to write first - and then press ‘submit’.
1. ‘life’ may or may not change.
for now this question causing me a little confused ,because there is a sound inside of me says that if you discover truly who you are life will be different and you will see it from other perspective.
So now there is a ‘you’ plus a voice inside…that makes two. There is no two!
There is nothing/nobody that can be “confused”
There is no inside or outside of anything/anyone.
There is no separate individual/entity (person) who is living a life.
There is no separate individual/entity (person) who can see anything from “other perspective”.
There is no separate individual/entity (person) who can “discover truly who you are”
There is no “person” who can want anything.

2. the resean made me say that i had no resistance to this question because that i already know that there is no body can attain true happiness because there is nobody at all. and all the identifications that i identify who i am with are all misleading me even the "I " and "me" which "i" repeat them over and over again are not the real who i am .
It is only a thought that says “I already know that there is no body can attain true happiness because there is nobody at all”, because there is no separate individual that knows anything.

What comes up for you when you read all of this Dahshal?

Warm regards
Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:39 am

hi kay !
no thing i noticed when i read them i found it is okay and there is no separate individual .except one statment which is" There is no separate individual/entity (person) who can “discover truly who you are”" i agree with you that there is no separate individual/entity (person) who can “discover that but how it can be discovered !

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Sun Dec 20, 2015 9:47 am

Hi Dahshal!

Well let's start the investigation into the no 'separate individual' looking at thoughts. I would like for you to answer all the questions in blue please.

Here is a little 'thought' exercise.

Sit for about 30 minutes and notice appearing thoughts. Just let them appear as they appear and notice what the thought actually is - words, images, bits of music - whatever appears. And when thoughts appear just notice them to answer the following questions.

1. Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?
2. Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?
3. Where are they coming from?
4. Where are they going?
5. Can you predict your next thought?
6. Can you push away any thought?
7. Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?
8. Can you stop thinking a thought in the middle?
9. Is it possible to control any thoughts?


Please look carefully when doing this exercise and answer all questions individually using the quote function.

Warm regards
Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.

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Dahshal
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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:45 pm

1. Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?
the mind does
2. Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?
no
3. Where are they coming from?
coming from no where
4. Where are they going?
going to no where
5. Can you predict your next thought?
no
6. Can you push away any thought?
maybe the mind will do that
7. Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?
no
8. Can you stop thinking a thought in the middle?
no way
9. Is it possible to control any thoughts?
no

Warm regards
Mohammed[/quote]

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Tue Dec 22, 2015 8:50 pm

for this three weeks i have a journey :) may be i will be unable to contact with you ,i would like to inform you about that .when i come back directly i will email you . see you soon

Warm regards
Mohammed[/quote]

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Tue Dec 22, 2015 9:19 pm

Hi Mohammed,

Enjoy your 3 week journey and when you are ready, yes, email me and we will continue.

Warm regards
Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.


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