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Dahshal
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the I am

Postby Dahshal » Tue Dec 08, 2015 10:34 pm

What brings you to Liberation Unleashed?
i use the sedona method i got some courses and i was looking for an answer about releasing feeding the EGO then one of the coaches sent my a like of your website and he recommended me to join you and so i did.

What do you expect of the conversation on this forum?
helping my self and the others by knowing the true way to be lighter and living happiness all :)

What is your background in terms of seeking and inquiry?
i used to study bio medical engineering then the sedona method actually i do not have huge experience in that :)

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Sun Dec 13, 2015 2:30 am

Hi Dahshal

My name is Kay, and I will assist in exploring the illusion of the separate self, though I can only point the way. You have to see it for yourself. That is why we are described as guides, not teachers.
This process is a guided inquiry where specific areas can be examined. I am not a teacher. This is YOUR inquiry. I will not be giving you new ideas and beliefs; only assisting you in examining and questioning the ones that you already have.
Before we start, let’s get through the formalities first:
If you haven't already seen it, there is introductory info here, the disclaimer and a short video too.
http://www.liberationunleashed.com/
A few ground rules:
1. Post at least once a day, if you cannot post, or need more time, let me know.
2. Be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.
3. Answer only from direct experience (felt senses and observed thoughts). Read this article at http://liberationunleashed.com/articles ... xperience/ for more help on distinguishing what is direct experience.) Longwinded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process.
4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies and such for the remainder of this investigation.
Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily and essential meditation practice, it is fine to continue that.
Technical support:
- You can reply to this thread by pushing the purple-orange coloured button 'Post Reply" at the left bottom of this page.
- PLEASE LEARN to use the quote function. When replying to a question, please use the quote function to highlight the question being answered. Instructions are located in the link below this line:
http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/v ... ?f=4&t=660
- The site has a habit of logging you out while you write a reply, which can mean you lose what you have written. One way to avoid this is to write elsewhere (word document), then just paste the message into the 'reply' window when you're ready to send.

Please read this thoroughly and if you agree we can continue.

Is English your first or second language?
Is there anything you do not understand?

Regards Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:16 am

thank you very much kay i really appreciate your existence and sorry for being late to replay .you asked if i am able to post daily .posing about what exactly? my mother language is the Arabic language and i am speaking english :) yet every thing is clear and we can start at any time .

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:51 am

Hi Dahshal

My name is Kay, and I will assist in exploring the illusion of the separate self, though I can only point the way. You have to see it for yourself. That is why we are described as guides, not teachers.
This process is a guided inquiry where specific areas can be examined. I am not a teacher. This is YOUR inquiry. I will not be giving you new ideas and beliefs; only assisting you in examining and questioning the ones that you already have.
Before we start, let’s get through the formalities first:
If you haven't already seen it, there is introductory info here, the disclaimer and a short video too.
http://www.liberationunleashed.com/
A few ground rules:
1. Post at least once a day, if you cannot post, or need more time, let me know.
2. Be 100% honest in your answers and inquiry.
3. Answer only from direct experience (felt senses and observed thoughts). Read this article at http://liberationunleashed.com/articles ... xperience/ for more help on distinguishing what is direct experience.) Longwinded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process.
4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies and such for the remainder of this investigation.
Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily and essential meditation practice, it is fine to continue that.
Technical support:
- You can reply to this thread by pushing the purple-orange coloured button 'Post Reply" at the left bottom of this page.
- PLEASE LEARN to use the quote function. When replying to a question, please use the quote function to highlight the question being answered. Instructions are located in the link below this line:
http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/v ... ?f=4&t=660
- The site has a habit of logging you out while you write a reply, which can mean you lose what you have written. One way to avoid this is to write elsewhere (word document), then just paste the message into the 'reply' window when you're ready to send.

Please read this thoroughly and if you agree we can continue.

Is English your first or second language?
Is there anything you do not understand?

Regards Kay


hi again !

you mean posting to the conversation .yes i do :)

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Wed Dec 16, 2015 8:56 am

Hi Dahshal,

Can you please answer the following questions with as much detail as possible. Don’t forget to use the quote function when answering each question.

1. How will Life change?
2. How will you change?
3. What will be different?
4. What is missing?
5. What would you like to achieve or obtain by this conversation?

Warm regards
Kay
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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:32 am

Hi again!
How will life change ?
More love and peace which is already here and now ,i will be honest with you ,i read a lot about the true self and what we really are ,all i need is how to get that place of beingness.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:38 am

How will you change ?
What i am is changeless .it may the way that i am looking to life will change and be more purity and peacfully when i be the true beingness all is mine and all is me .

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:46 am

What will be different ?
I belife that when i be the real beingness and true self which already here and now .every thing will be okay and all aspcts of life flow in love and peace.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 9:52 am

What is missing ?
True happiness.while i am thinking that happiness is outside and it can be existing in something changing from moment to moment how i cab be happy !

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Wed Dec 16, 2015 10:01 am

What would you like to achieve or obtain by this conversation?
as i mentioned above that i read a lot abot what i am and who i am .all i need is Practically way quieting the mind and go beyoud the mind or any other way can take me there .

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:20 am

Hello Dahshal,

1. When replying to a post, answer or write everything on the one page and then click “Post Reply”, otherwise we have many posts.

2. Can you please look at this link http://liberationunleashed.com/nation/v ... ?f=4&t=660 and highlight the question you are answering by using the quote function. Just like I have done when replying to you down below.

3. Did you read this link before you started? http://liberationunleashed.com/articles ... xperience/
If not, please read it now.

I am a little concerned about the language difference, so we will see how we go. :)

Okay...when you read my responses to your answers, I would like you to watch for any resistance/fear that arises and to take note of the resistance/fear, and let me know what the resistance/fear is and how it showed up.
How will life change ?
More love and peace which is already here and now ,i will be honest with you ,i read a lot about the true self and what we really are ,all i need is how to get that place of beingness.
There is no separate individual that could want “more love and peace” and there is no such state called “beingness”. ‘Life’ may or may not change, but seeing through the separate individual does not achieve a state of “beingness”.
How will you change ?
What i am is changeless .it may the way that i am looking to life will change and be more purity and peacfully when i be the true beingness all is mine and all is me .
Hmmm sounds lovely but there is nothing/no one that can be “more purity and peaceful” and there is no separate individual who can attain “true beingness”.
What will be different ?
I belife that when i be the real beingness and true self which already here and now .every thing will be okay and all aspcts of life flow in love and peace.
‘Life’ continues on the same and it may or may not change but there is no separate entity that can achieve “real beingness” or “true self”.
What is missing ?
True happiness.while i am thinking that happiness is outside and it can be existing in something changing from moment to moment how i cab be happy !
There is no separate entity/individual that can attain “true happiness”.
What would you like to achieve or obtain by this conversation?
as i mentioned above that i read a lot abot what i am and who i am .all i need is Practically way quieting the mind and go beyoud the mind or any other way can take me there .

There is nothing, nobody, no one that has a “mind” or wants to “quieten the mind”.

Dahshal, I would like you to drop all what you think you know you are, and what you think you know. That has no place here while we are looking to see through the separate self. Can you do that for me?

Let me know what you noticed when you read my responses to your answers. Remember, there is no one here judging you, so please answer honestly.

Kind regards
Kay
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:45 pm

hi kay !

i read all your questions more than one time and there is no resistance to any one of them, on the contrary i found there is aggrement to all what you said .

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Re: the I am

Postby forgetmenot » Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:30 pm

Hi Dahshal,

You didn’t write back the next day, so I thought you must of decided not to continue. It’s best if you write back each day.
i read all your questions more than one time and there is no resistance to any one of them, on the contrary i found there is aggrement to all what you said .
So reading that:

1. ‘life’ may or may not change.
2. that there is no one/nobody that can attain true happiness or peace or purity,
3. and that there is no state of ‘true beingness’
4. and that there is no ‘mind to quieten’

did not you cause any disappointment at all? You had absolutely no reaction to this at all, even though it was something you thought would happen?

Warm regards
Kay
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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:11 pm

hi kay !

1. ‘life’ may or may not change.

for now this question causing me a little confused ,because there is a sound inside of me says that if you discover truly who you are life will be different and you will see it from other perspective.

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Re: the I am

Postby Dahshal » Sat Dec 19, 2015 12:21 pm

2. that there is no one/nobody that can attain true happiness or peace or purity

the resean made me say that i had no resistance to this question because that i already know that there is no body can attain true happiness because there is nobody at all. and all the identifications that i identify who i am with are all misleading me even the "I " and "me" which "i" repeat them over and over again are not the real who i am .


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