Nothing extra there, just the same stuff of thoughts, sensations, images etc.
Yes.
I've always had a doubt. Today I only see what’s called the whole body as an image. What is perceiving this image ?
A question I can’t answer.
An image as in seeing the body like seeing a table or tv? Or seeing an image in imagination?
Either way the same inquiry can happen- this is about looking for a see-er of colours/shapes/images. Visual stuff can for most be the most tricky 'sense' to look at. This is why many of the exercises used start with 'with your eyes closed'.
But it's the same movement as examining the experience for a separate hearer, smeller, toucher etc that we did before.
You mentioned at one point a feeling of something inside the head looking out. Is that still the case? tell me more about that, what is that experience constructed out of? particular sensations. Is it like this image?
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxQIO ... XpFSHA2OGc
Funny experience. There’s no part of the image that feels more “me” or mine than any other. Even in terms of sensations when an object is being hold, the boundaries between inside/ outside / clothes / objects are very unclear.
Beautiful.
Are there really any actual boundaries there at all? Or is that stuff 'added on' by thoughts and images?
I’m seeing what I’ve missed before: in direct experience it’s true that the focus on a certain part of the image doesn’t make what appears more “real or “mine” than the rest of the background. But sensations do “ that pain in my toe!”.
ok great looking. Let's examine the sensations/images link further. Did you watch the 'rubber hand illusion' video?
lets stick with the hand. sit quietly and look at the hand resting on something. Also be aware of any particular sensations that seem to be 'from that hand'. get really clear on all that.
Now shut your eyes. so there is now no longer any images of the hand, just the sensations right? or is there? you might find that there is still an image of the hand appearing in imagination. be clear if there is or not. then ignore that and go only to the raw sensations of 'the hand'.
what about those raw sensations only, are saying or communicating anything about 'hand', let alone 'my hand'?
What about those raw sensations only are saying anything about location, or shape or a hand, or size?
Let me know what is found.
No organism but a quick succession of sensations, sounds, thoughts etc. Sensations could be labeled in different manners but in bare experience they have none.
Nice looking!
I can’t point at any specific place since experiences are constantly happening in different locations which are very difficult to point at.
So is it clear there is no central point of location that experience emerges from or is happening to? Check this is different situations to be clear.
After checking this it might be useful to ask the question again 'Where is Stephane right now?' and see what is found.
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Let's go on to the expectations/fears aspect. There'sa lot in this post- feel free to do the above stuff and then look at this stuff separately to give everything proper attention.
(i don't mean to be frivolous but "seeing through the ego " doesnt feel something very emotional to me.)
That's ok, was just pushing a little bit :) thanks for sticking with me.
is doubt: can it happen ? will it ? how ? by way of (this) practice ? by grace ? and so on
And when those doubting thoughts arise, can they be seen to be just thoughts?
Those doubting thoughts seem to be saying that it isn't clear there is no such thing as a separate self. But looking right now again at experience, what does that say? And which is more reliable?
.i’d be done with my story, self and other judgment,
If Stephane/I IS story about self, other and judgements, then what could 'be done with it?'
Is there any control about those thoughts and images arising?
Can sounds be stopped from happenning? colours? tastes?
Are these thoughts any different?
I’d could be always et forever content, enjoying the union with the uniververse
ok so these ideas could be written as: 'painful or unpleasant emotions or sensations will never arise again'.
Again, is there control over those sensations more than the wind, rain, loud noises?
What if they continue to arise? Would that be a problem?
Whose proble]m would that be?
secondly 'enjoying union with the universe'
So this thought is saying 'there is currently separation with the universe that will end'.
Is that accurate? This is the core of what we have been looking at in these experiments? Is there actually any evidence of anything existing that is 'separate from the universe' in the first place?
Later I’d like to share with other people so they cold get rid of their suffering.
So is this what is hoped for with this process? To get rid of suffering? What do you mean exactly by 'suffering' (not what spiritual teachings say that word is, but what is happening right now that shouldn't be or should stop)
May be I’d have some supernatural siddis and I’d say “ oh! those were true!”
If unusual things started happening then so what? would those new perceptions/abilities belong to anything?
And if none of that happenned, if all this remained just as mundane and utterly ordinary as it is now, would that be ok?
I wouldn’t care about anything anymore I’d loose my job / possessions, my girlfriend would go away, no friends left
Ok so this is a dear rather than an expectation. Good to notice this.
Let's talk about possesion.
'my job'
'my possessions'
'my girlfriend'
'my friends'
Take a look at this idea 'mine'.
Take a look say at you tv, or motorbike that got damaged.
What really makes it 'yours' in the first place?
And what 'you' is here that it belongs to?
Are there keys in your pocket? Is the sky blue? Is there an 'i, a self?' LOOK! :)