Let's do this!

[danl]

Thanks, I'll keep digging and reflect on your reply.

[danl]

Still looking...

[Armstrong]

It might help if you try looking several times during the day for short periods of time.

[danl]

Yes, I'll give that a try. I'm still trying to see where the likes and dislikes come from and it eludes me. I'll continue.

[Armstrong]

Have you found anything that you believe you control?

E.g. controlling the hands. Controlling the thoughts, the likes and dislikes. Controlling what you remember and when -- if you try to really pay attention, is it clear how you - the thing that understands these words RIGHT NOW - control that stuff? That stuff is physical - how are you (the thing understanding these words right now) connected physically to that stuff?

[danl]

So far all I see as a connection is thought. I'm still looking to be sure because it is subtle and seems to be non-verbal or visual.

[Armstrong]

Why can't you notice what's going on? You use your hands all the time, right? Don't you ever use them without thinking?

If you can't notice how you control your body - in a moment - what makes you think you'll ever figure it out?

What sort of thoughts are you having as you read this?

[danl]

Why can't you notice what's going on? You use your hands all the time, right? Don't you ever use them without thinking?

Yes, the hands are used all of the time without thinking... Why don't I notice? - Possibly because there is nothing else going on, but that is just speculation.

If you can't notice how you control your body - in a moment - what makes you think you'll ever figure it out?

Stubborness. :)

What sort of thoughts are you having as you read this?

More questions - What is will? What is awareness?
Also, the thought that there is no I to notice what's going on or figure anything out.
And, the body experiences a sensation, that triggers a thought of good or bad in one form or another, and the sense of I is associated with that thought. But that could've come from reading other posts.

[Armstrong]

Ok. Thanks for being honest.

Can you try doing the exercises in this audiol?

http://liberationunleashed.com/LU_Audio ... n%2004.mp3

[danl]

Sure! I'll take my time with it.

FYI - I have an early start and late finish tomorrow, so I may not have much to report but I will check in.

Thanks

[Armstrong]

Ok. Have fun.

[danl]

Thanks :)

[danl]

Hi Armstrong,

Another long day and not much opportunity to do the exercises. I'll reply tomorrow.

[Armstrong]

Ok

[danl]

Still here. I've been working with the audio but at times when I'm tired so I fall asleep. Also trying to observe during the day but get absorbed and focused with work.