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Re: Guide available.

Postby Mlight1 » Tue Mar 31, 2015 6:27 pm

Hi Sarah
Sorry I'm posting late, have been out all day.
I want you to look anytime remembering happens to see if it is always there. Look between thoughts.
What wants to train thoughts/mind? What sees that as a problem?
Hugs Sarah xxx
Really that is more thought and there legitimately is not and never was a problem. This will just take the course it does as life does and always has. There is no me who does anything just "it" however we want to define it recognizing itself. Its interesting how staring at what used to be ignored or touching objects and thoughts analyzing themselves encompasses much of life without much thought at all given to any central character. When frustration or any uncomfortable feeling arises it dissolves fast when registered because it is as it is and there is no one to do anything about the coming and going.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Sarah7 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:02 am

Hey Mike

OK – so lets just have a tidy up session:

Have you been able to find, a ‘self’ that is the ‘experiencer’?
Or a self that is the doer, or can control what happens?
Or a self that ‘makes’ decisions?
Or a self who ‘does the thinking’?
Is the "body" just another thought label for sensations (namely tactile & kinesthetic)?
Are the five body senses made to arise or experienced by this ‘self’?
Is there a self ‘in here’ which is separate from the world and others ‘out there’?
Is there doubt or unclarity that in all these cases the ‘self’ is nothing other than a mental fabrication?
Do you feel the illusion of self has been revealed? If so what remains?
Hugs Sarah xxx
If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Mlight1 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 5:05 pm

Hi Sarah
OK – so lets just have a tidy up session:
Have you been able to find, a ‘self’ that is the ‘experiencer’?
Or a self that is the doer, or can control what happens?
Or a self that ‘makes’ decisions?
Or a self who ‘does the thinking’?
No the self is an illusion and an assumption of possession over life. Life can't be possessed it is no one's to own.
Is the "body" just another thought label for sensations (namely tactile & kinesthetic)?
Yes its a label, every sensation is what it is at the time awareness of the sensation is present, no words or thoughts are at all necessary even if the commentary happens.
Are the five body senses made to arise or experienced by this ‘self’?
No, they take place as they do same as thought does there is no self as a legitimate entity or anything more than a passing thought.
Is there a self ‘in here’ which is separate from the world and others ‘out there’?
No, it was always an assumption and thought claiming experience.
Is there doubt or unclarity that in all these cases the ‘self’ is nothing other than a mental fabrication?
Do you feel the illusion of self has been revealed? If so what remains?
The self is without a doubt that the self is thought form and though thoughts are experienced with all of life they their content is not true nor does it come from life but rather thought fabricates an illustration of life which does not accurately represent life. Yes the self has been seen as a reoccurring thought concept that has no power, never truly did. What remains is all of this now, here in life. If more understanding is to happen life will reveal that, thought will do what it does as it is apart of life in this form but there is no one who can do anything or cause understanding really.
Hugs Sarah xxx[/quote]

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Sarah7 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:05 pm

Hi Mike
So anymore questions? Anything at all you want to look at?
Has seeking stopped?
Hugs Sarah xxx
If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Mlight1 » Wed Apr 01, 2015 11:58 pm

Hi Mike
So anymore questions? Anything at all you want to look at?
Has seeking stopped?
Hugs Sarah xxx
No Sarah no more questions everything is actually right here, always was. Life is what it looks like, sounds like, smells like tastes, and feels life. When thoughts happen they are just what they are, sort of a commentary about life. They can't be stopped its part of life in this form. When thoughts and feelings come they will be what they are and they will go.

Thank you for your guidance Sarah, this realistically is so simple but in its simplicity is hard to see because the nature of thought makes things complex, though its needed it for some things. This could never been known without something to compare it to and see that in all of the movement and noise the connections between it all is what makes it and everything even possible.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Sarah7 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 12:53 pm

Hi Mike
So then - ready for some final questions? Take as much time with these as you wish and answer in as much detail as needed. I will then check them over to see if there is anything I have missed and then show the other guides to see if 'I' have missed anything if that is ok with you?

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
6) Anything to add?
Big hugs Sarah xxx
If you understand, things are just as they are; if you do not understand, things are just as they are.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Mlight1 » Thu Apr 02, 2015 6:32 pm

Hi Sarah
So then - ready for some final questions? Take as much time with these as you wish and answer in as much detail as needed. I will then check them over to see if there is anything I have missed and then show the other guides to see if 'I' have missed anything if that is ok with you?
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No just thoughts that were assuming separation without checking for truth. Life is exactly what senses register with thoughts and feelings taking place but their contents are fictional.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
The self seems to be a re occurring thought that has come up constantly throughout life starting from before memory can even recall. It is the assumption of ownership of life, the body and the thoughts themselves. The concept becomes believed to be true because at a young age others who are trusted validated separation and later in life the ability critical thinking develops. With critical thought possible the ability to differentiate to find truth about the inaccuracy of indirect sources is possible so thought can expose life as it is.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
There are feelings of great relief and clarity. The difference now is fear has dissolved, unpleasant thoughts and emotions still arise but dissolve fast as there is no fictional manager to in a futile attempt try to dissolve them forcefully. Life is as it always was or could possibly be but truth makes everything more interesting since there is no more constant focus on the subject "I".
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
There were several smaller hints along the process but the realization that all senses and thought was taking place at once which left nothing but thought deconstructed "nothingness" and an understanding conceptually that nothingness was impossible in direct experience so what was thoughts to be nothing is actually everything.
5) Do you decide, intend, choose, control events in Life? Do you make anything happen? Give examples from your experience.
No, it seems the rapid pace at which life can be registered by thoughts and sense perception creates the illusion of free will or decisions. For example what happens is an act is thought about the action takes place without a doer then thought comments after claiming ownership of action. This is just what causes the assumption of choice but so much action takes place all of the time without thought even noticing. Life just happens, no doer of actions, senses, thoughts, feelings. Life as a whole seems to be its own guided force in itself in constant change and non permanence .
6) Anything to add?
"I" would just like to thank you Sarah for your help, all of this just unfolded they way it had to and life will continue to unfold, transition the way it does. What is also important to convey to anyone reading is in between this process when there is no clear truth known and much confusion there is really no need to be afraid. All of the faculties needed to life will still be present, life does not need to be labeled or separated at all times but if the labels are needed they will still be there. Feelings, thoughts, memories will still all be intact but just seen as thoughts. The capacity to experience life expands and with it the ability to see what is becomes clear.

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Re: Guide available.

Postby Sarah7 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 9:04 am

Hi Mike!
Thanks for those.
I've popped your answers through to the other guides. No idea how long this will take so keep checking in ok!
Hugs Sarah xxx
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Re: Guide available.

Postby Sarah7 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:44 am

Mike have pm'd you.
Hugs S xxxx
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Re: Guide available.

Postby Mlight1 » Fri Apr 03, 2015 6:21 pm

Hi Mike!
Thanks for those.
I've popped your answers through to the other guides. No idea how long this will take so keep checking in ok!
Hugs Sarah xxx
Thanks, and questions would gladly be welcomed


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