Oh I like this one, so repeatable. So I look at a word and a meaning appears in my mind. Another word and another meaning, etc. It's just, input and experience. Had fun all day, just seeing from thing to thing. More tomorrow...Seeing
Currently there are words on the screen being read. Go to the actual experience itself, and ignore the suggestion of thoughts.
What reads these words?
Is there anything that is reading, or reading is just happening?
Dear Vivien,Oh I like this one, so repeatable. So I look at a word and a meaning appears in my mind. Another word and another meaning, etc. It's just, input and experience. Had fun all day, just seeing from thing to thing. More tomorrow...Seeing
Currently there are words on the screen being read. Go to the actual experience itself, and ignore the suggestion of thoughts.
What reads these words?
Is there anything that is reading, or reading is just happening?
No seer, just seeing. Seeing just is, changing with each change of looking.Look around in the room. Go to the actual experience itself, and ignore the suggestion of thoughts.
What sees?
Is there a seer somewhere, or there is just seeing happening?
This is different because there is no controlling the ears and hearing. Sounds come and go, just hearing, no hearer. If I may be so bold, I have to submit one of my coolest thoughts. ;-) The proof of the mind's desire to label EVERYTHING is that if an unlabeled sound appears, the mind FREAKS OUT with OMG "what was that!" Total proof... ;-)Hearing
Pay attention for the background sounds. Go to the actual experience itself, and ignore the suggestions of thoughts.
Does a hearer arise in the actual experience?
Is there somewhere a hearer, of just hearing happening?
Only smelling, no thing doing the smelling, only sensation arising from smell.Smelling
Smell something, an orange, coffee or the hand.
In the fragrance that arises, is there any direct evidence that there is a smeller (or a nose) that is doing the smelling, or is there only smelling?
This examination DOES give new meaning to "don't believe everything you think". Thoughts seem to be under more scrutiny than before and some are just SO bogus! Especially repetitive old nagging worry wort ones. ;-) A bit like after Dorothy discovers the Wizard of Oz pulling levers behind the curtain. He was just a kindly, somewhat frail old man.Of course, thoughts and mental images suggest ‘explanations’, but when they are examined closely, are they really the case?
How is this known that “meaning appears in the mind”?So I look at a word and a meaning appears in my mind. Another word and another meaning,
How all of these known?The proof of the mind's desire to label EVERYTHING is that if an unlabeled sound appears, the mind FREAKS OUT with OMG "what was that!"
Just some?This examination DOES give new meaning to "don't believe everything you think". Thoughts seem to be under more scrutiny than before and some are just SO bogus!
By unexamined education, that's what I was taught. But now I would say the thought label containing past experiences, definition, meaning, for the sense input appears and a thought says it appears in something called Mind.Dear Bill,How is this known that “meaning appears in the mind”?So I look at a word and a meaning appears in my mind. Another word and another meaning,
In DE there is no mind.What is ‘mind’ in the actual, direct experience?
Mind is not experienced by the senses, it is just a thought, a concept like Self.How is ‘mind’ experienced, with which of the 5 senses?
The proof of the mind's desire to label EVERYTHING is that if an unlabeled sound appears, the mind FREAKS OUT with OMG "what was that!"
Well direct experience of "mind knowing" or "freaking out" has changed by examination to nothing but another thought. But the reaction to a sense input that has not been labeled is there for sure. Perhaps the survival need to have labels for everything is just another thought that, believed, fires the feeling of possible danger.How are all of these known?
No, it's just a thought.Can ‘mind’ desire or label anything?
No, the thought 'danger', believed, triggers fear.Can ‘mind’ be freaked out?
No it's just a concept.Can ‘mind’ do anything?
Uncle! Uh, I mean no, it can't do anything. ;-)Is there REALLY a ‘mind’ that could do anything?
Ha ha, got me. Well, food for thought? ;-)Just some?This examination DOES give new meaning to "don't believe everything you think". Thoughts seem to be under more scrutiny than before and some are just SO bogus!
Love, Vivien
Good looking. :)Well direct experience of "mind knowing" or "freaking out" has changed by examination to nothing but another thought. But the reaction to a sense input that has not been labeled is there for sure. Perhaps the survival need to have labels for everything is just another thought that, believed, fires the feeling of possible danger.
No physical touching, no pouring, no drinking. Not real.Now, can you physically grasp that image of a cup?
Can you pour tea into it?
Can you drink from it? In Reality?
Just an image, just imagination.Is there a ‘real’ cup or just an image of a cup?
Is there an appearing mental image?
Is the content of the mental image (the cup) ‘real’?
Yes thought is real and the contents are not real in the physical universe, I can see it.The thoughts and mental images are real only as arising thoughts and mental images, their ‘presence’ cannot be denied. However their contents, what are they about (like the cup) are not ‘real’, they are just fantasies. Can you see this?
Good :)Yes thought is real and the contents are not real in the physical universe, I can see it.
There is just a sensation of touching.With eyes closed, put one of the hands onto the table. Pay attention only to the pure sensation.
Does the pure sensation itself suggest in any way that the hand is doing the touching?
No hand, just pressure sensation.Does the pure sensation itself suggest in any way that there is a hand (subject) that is touching the table (object), or is there only touching?
Only touching, sensing a smallish field of pressure sensation.When all mental images and thoughts are ignored is there a ‘hand’ or a ‘table’ at all, or is there only touching (pure sensation)?
AndNo hand, just pressure sensation.
OK, please do it again, and look more closely.Only touching, sensing a smallish field of pressure sensation.
No pressure in DE. It is just a thought labeling the type of sensation.We are trying to separate thought content and what is actually happening.
Is there REALLY a pressure in the actual experience,
or is there only a pure sensation that is labelled by thought that this is a pressure?
Good.No pressure in DE. It is just a thought labeling the type of sensation.
None of these can be known, not how tall, weight or volume, no boundaries, shape or form. No inside or outside is sensed. The body seems to be just inputs from the senses. Beyond that is just thinking.Can it be known how tall the body is?
Does it have a weight or a volume of the body?
Is there a boundary between the body and the clothing?
Is there a boundary between the body and the chair?
In the actual experience does the body have a shape or a form?
Is there an inside or outside?
What is the body in the actual experience?
Good… let’s go one step further.None of these can be known, not how tall, weight or volume, no boundaries, shape or form. No inside or outside is sensed. The body seems to be just inputs from the senses. Beyond that is just thinking.
The past is just a thought called memory.If the ‘I’ is just a thought, then what is ‘past’?
This body is very different from the one in 1946! OMG!Was the ‘body’ that is seen in the mirror the one that was born on a certain date?
Or is the ‘body’ that is being seen in the mirror, different to the ‘body’ that was born on a certain date?
Just thoughts from things like old folded and tattered documents laying in a dresser drawer.Other than this thought, how else is it known that the ‘body’ was born on that specific date?
Or is the thought the only link?
No, nothing can be touched in the thought called Billy.And because that thought is believed in, it is said to be 'reality', but is it really?
Yes, I can see it, in me and in my grown children.However, all it is just a thought appearing that is believed in?
Can you see this?
Yes, only thoughts.Can you see that “This body was born on xxxx” is simply a thought appearing that is believed in, and nothing more than that?
No, just thoughts. This current body did not exist in the past.So, can this body have a past?
Or everything that is labelled as ‘past’ is just a mental story?
Other than contents of thought stories, is there a ‘past’?
Only by thoughts of the past or the future.Can time be experienced?
What is time?Bill: Only by thoughts of the past or the future.Vivien: Can time be experienced?
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