There must still be an “I”, since I don’t feel its non-existence as yet. You ask ,in my own experience. That for me means when I look, no, I can’t find anything, but that doesn’t seem to change the fact that I don’t really feel its non-existence. I still feel separate. That means boundaries. Where they are, I don’t know. But the fact remains, there must be an ‘I’ somewhere, even if I cannot find it.You cannot find one, but is there one somewhere?
In your own experience, is there one?
Are you sure you had something? Where did you keep that?
What in your experience is this "I" that had something?
Has there ever been an "I" (other then the thought "I" that come and goes and is not real) ?
What I meant with ‘I had’ is simply that I felt identified with my thoughts. I now know that the I that ‘had something’ did not exist and that there has never been an ‘I’ other than the thoughts that made up my identity. Now I am aware of it and before I wasn’t. That’s all the difference. I have not come to any realization beyond that.As you said, you experienced there are thoughts and now and then there is an "I"-thought only.
In that case where could there be located a separate "me"?
Where could there be located this separate “me”, who knows, I can’t see it, I can’t locate it, yet it’s not totally gone. Only the thoughts about the “I” are gone, or in their way out.
I thought my thoughts were me, I thought they were reality, they were part of me, my body too.Can you tell me how you did that, identifying?
If you had to learn somebody how to identfy with the body, how would you explain that?
How can you stop the identifying?
I would just say ‘this is who you are’, so if the body was let’s say broad and sturdy, I’d say something like ‘ you are a separate entity, similar to other broad and sturdy forms, which are also separate’
To stop the identifying I began by closing my eyes and feeling my inner body. Everything else was something other. Rooted in that feeling I acknowledged the presence of one thought after the other. I acknowledge the presence of a feeling often attached to the thought and ‘felt the feeling’ in full. After a short while it was gone. What remained was ‘me’. I was not ‘carried away’ anymore, everything came and go, what was always there, ‘the background’ you can say, that’s what I identify now with I guess. So it is another of way of identification I suppose. I’m trying to let that go too and not cling to any concept. I’m taking my time too, in the sense that I try not to think too much, I just try to be present.
I guess there is. I see a thought and I am tempted to identify with it. I let it go. This again goes to the beginning of the question, there must still be an ‘I’ who acknowledges the presence of the thought and lets it go. You told me before do not guess, look. I look and see nothing, at least nothing I can give a name to or describe. And yet, something must still be there with which I identify.What exactly is that: not believing your thoughts?
How do you do that "not believing your thoughts"?
Is there really a "you" that is doing this not believing?
I could of course describe them in a general theoretical way, but not by experience as I thought was the idea. For the decision comes by itself, the intention, well, there is only one and that is to be loving and maybe find the truth. Free will, I have no direct connection or knowledge about it. Choice, I almost never choose, unless I have to, and control, well, I’m letting go of as much of it as I can. When I read those questions (also ‘what makes things happen’ and ‘how does it work’) I felt that you thought I had a new and different perspective of the world, the one that we are supposed to arrive at with the help of the guides in this forum maybe? By answering that I could not describe it I wanted to let you know that that was not the case. I could have given you examples from my experience about all of these things back then when I thought I had any control over my life. Now I don’t think about them.These are properties of the human condition. How come you cant describe these?
I look and I don’t see anything. I don’t know if there could ever have been one. I try to forget everything and begin from scratch every single moment. I’m doing my best while trying not to try too hard, otherwise I’ll make it into a problem. I’m giving it time. I’ll try to remember that question thought, ‘is there an I now?’ maybe one day I will not only not find any, but also feel that there isn’t any.Every day, every moment start from scratch. Only look in your own experience.
Dont let thought lead you. Only look and see.
Is there an "I" now? Could there ever have been one?
