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erah
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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby erah » Tue Jun 17, 2014 7:19 pm

Hi Paulo,

Ok – I looked again. So there is just experience moving - and in between it there is nothing. At the place where the “I” is supposed to be – there is nothing at all – just nothing. Ok – I saw that – for a tiny brief second; the exact thought that followed was: “but that would be silly though… very very silly…” Now the experience of “I” is less certain. Need to keep looking. ‘You’ still seem very solid. ‘You’ – is that just a label too? Just another idea – like ‘I’?? Superimposed on experience? Maybe I don’t know what other people are, but certainly – they are not a ‘you’ – because that is just a word. Not there yet… I will keep looking.

Thank you!
Erah

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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby Paulo » Tue Jun 17, 2014 11:09 pm

Hi Erah,
So there is just experience moving
Yes indeed, there is just experience, nothing else.
‘You’ still seem very solid. ‘You’ – is that just a label too? Just another idea – like ‘I’?? Superimposed on experience? Maybe I don’t know what other people are, but certainly – they are not a ‘you’ – because that is just a word.
What are others in Direct Experience?
Not there yet… I will keep looking
Where is there to be?

Paulo.

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erah
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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby erah » Thu Jun 19, 2014 12:32 am

Hi Paulo,

Thank you for your questions :)
Where is there to be?
The place to be is where “I” am at. And where is that? That’s here… And where is ‘here’? ‘Here’ is just a word - where is it in direct experience? In direct experience ‘here’ means…. ’Here’ doesn’t end - it just expends on… Here and there are not really divided. Does ‘here’ start somewhere? Not sure… Who is here? Who is aware of this undivided and endless ‘here’? Not sure… Is there a person here to whom this 'here' belongs? In a way - I am this 'here' - there is no separation between 'here' and what I am.
What are others in Direct Experience?
Not sure yet… I spent the entire day with another person, and looked - only thing to say right now from my observation is that when "I" am not there - others are full of life...

Best!
Erah

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erah
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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby erah » Thu Jun 19, 2014 10:54 pm

Hi Paulo,
Here's my daily post :)

Investigating the 'I' more today - here's a brief observation that came up:  'I' am a process - a movement of experiences.  I am not any one of these experiences, but also 'not them'.  I am just this whole movement - at least so it seemed from one brief moment of observation.  

I also looked more into the experience of 'self' and 'others.'  A song was playing - it seemed to be 'outside of me', but looking for the listener - listening was everywhere - unconfined/un-contained.  

Just my observations from today :).
Best,
Erah

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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby Paulo » Fri Jun 20, 2014 12:06 am

Investigating the 'I' more today
All we do here is look at direct experience and see what IS in reality around the idea of a separate self. Investigating the 'I' presumes that there is an 'I' to investigate before that investigation has even begun. Reality is as you find it.

Your postings are simply not addressing the questions at hand Erah, so I'm going to suggest you take a break for a little while and allow the work that's been done to settle a little.

Feel free to request another guide on the forum when you return, but I do recommend you take a break, and wish you all the best.

Paulo.

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Re: Ready for a guide

Postby erah » Fri Jun 20, 2014 3:18 am

Hi Paulo,
Well - thank you for your time and effort.  Your questions are like a koan - and koans are answered in their own time it seems :).
I wish you all the best, 
Erah.


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