Bear with me for a moment - I will get back to you shortly.

Xain ♥

Knock, knock. Is Xain home?

I know some of the terms you state, but that is not for this guidance.
However, I (or someone else) would be happy to discuss this further with you outside of the forum.
We have many Facebook groups set-up for such exploration and discussion.
Xain ♥

Could you recommend where I should go? With ...

I am not settled, sorry if it sounds disappointing. There is an urge to know wth masters meant by all those fancy words: dharmakaya, nirvana, nirvikalpa samadhi, arahantship and all that stuff.

Not at all - No disappointment here.

I know some of the terms you state, but that is not for this ...

Hope it is understandable. :)

Absolutely, and you show excellent understanding.

Are you settled at this point?
Do you have any further questions?

Xain ♥

I am not settled, sorry if it sounds disappointing. There is an urge to know wth masters meant by all those fancy words: dharmakaya, nirvana ...

You have realised that 'I' is an idea, a thought.
What about 'others'? (Other people).

So there is a wanting to be an arhat
And the assumption there is that there is a real 'arhat' that exists outside of thought.
You assume there is because 'you' want to become one.
Is there?

Is there a 'you ...

There is still wanting arising in me despite this understanding.

Can you explain?

Xain ♥

I have always looked up to arhats and always wanted to be one. So there is a wanting to be an arahant. Obviously it's the same 'I' that wants it.

"""Who or what wants thoughts to stop?'
'An idea wants thoughts to stop.'""

This confused me myself. lol. Let me explain what make sense to me now, I wanted thoughts to stop but since 'I' whose thoughts stop is just an idea I said there was an idea to stop thoughts. I was clinging to peace and ...

Well we can keep looking for as long as you want to.

Speaking conventionally, I have not experienced a cessation of thoughts in realising this.
However, many thoughts are now simply witnessed and let go of immediately as 'just a thought appearing' and are not hooked on to or automatically beleived ...

Why is a cessation of thoughts expected?


Coz there was an idea that the imaginary 'I' will feel good. hahaha.


Who or what is it going to benefit?

Goooooood question. This diseased 'I' keeps wanting to be acknowledged :) hahah, it just won't die


Who or what wants thoughts to stop?

An ...

Is it realised, then, that 'cessation of thoughts' is just an expectation?
Also, is it realised just why that expectation may not be fulfilled?

Yes it clear that it's an expectation but I don't know who can answer whether it can be fulfilled or not. Maybe it can be, I suspect though it may be ...

Complete cessation of thoughts is impossible, sure, but thoughts related to an imaginary self should cease once the realization is complete.
Cease for whom?
And why?

Cease for no one. Why? I understood it that way.


To put it another way, are the seeking thoughts a problem?
VERY GOOD QUESTION ...

These seeking thoughts and ideas (they may still continue after realising 'no separate self) . . .

I believe they should change in nature at least, they should be less egocentric. If there is a real realization then anger shouldn't arise when an illusory 'I' is mistreated.


Do the thoughts ...

Is there still seeking? If yes, by what/whom?


Yes, there is still seeking but obviously not by 'me', by thoughts and ideas. They are contradictory ideas: if there is no one to seek then what is this seeking? Seeking arises in ideas.


What does this statement elicit now: 'No matter how well I ...

On the conventional level, I understand what you are saying - But is there an 'I', a seperate self with mindfulness of varying degrees?
Is there a separate self witnessing thoughts?

Of course not. Bunch of conditions that allow mindfulness and witnessing.


Sure. We can say that.
Is the body ...

Xain ♥

Where are youuuuuuuuuuuu? :)