4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

There just seems to be some kind of gravitational pull towards 'awakening'. There is no 'me' looking, even though it feels like there is. Thoughts are quick and deceptive, but as more of them hit the light of awareness, the pull gets ...

Anyway, it's very clear to me that you're ready for the final questions, so here they are. When answering question 5, please give specific and very recent examples from direct experience. Once I get your answers, I'll put them forward for other guides for any comments. Then I'll arrange for you to ...

Hi Jon,

Great answers.

Experience is only known. It is not known by what it is known. This knowing could be called 'I', but I don't know what 'I' is.
It seems clear from all that you've been saying to me that you don't at all mean that this knowing that becould be called 'I' is in any way ...

Hi Pete sorry for late one.

Well Jon, that's all the various areas of experience looked at, and you haven't been able to find a self in any of them. So, let's just have a look from a slightly different perspective .

What experiences?

no idea. Experience is only known. It is not known by what ...

Hi Pete. Got in very late after a long day today so will have to reply tomorrow afternoon now. Excellent stuff though!!

It's amazing to see that happening isn't it. What we call decisions arise all the time, seemingly out of nowhere. Of course, they always have; it's just that, without looking in direct experience, there is a believed, unquestioned assumption that, 'I chose that', 'I decided that should happen' etc ...

Yes, it's good to keep looking, looking, looking. It's my pleasure to help you to look, and in the right places.

Great. I had a strange day yesterday, had a lot on. It was quite apparent when I got home that this body mind is like a complex processing machine. It all just happens automatically ...

Is there any self, any you, to be found in this sensing, prior to concepts?

Only the knowing of it all.

Yes, there are what we call colours, and the shapes that are formed between different colours.

But, in direct experience, can you even experience (a) colour as in any way separate from ...

Ok, I get that now. Staying just with the aspect of whether there is a separate self to be found, you can see that it's just a story (albeit a very convincing and absorbing one). I like your phrase Identifying with thoughts, is getting lost in them.

Yes exactly! Very absorbing indeed ...

Hi Pete thanks for your reply. Will have to reply tomorrow now unfortunately, had a long day. . . . I am definitely enjoying the process of looking! Very revealing!!

Are you saying that you conceive this separate self entity to be the knowing of experience, awareness? Is this evident to you in direct experience, or is it that 'your conception of a self arises in awareness/knowing?

Again, have you any direct experience of this knowing awareness being trapped or ...

Hi Pete, that makes sense, thank you. I like the santa analogy.

Nothing exists outside the present moment.

Can you find anything, anything at all, that does?

Thoughts arising are part of direct experience, but the contents, consisting of concepts, are not direct experience, not the truth, not ...

Hi Pete,

That all makes perfect sense. So looking at what is, with awareness, rather than following up how thoughts interpret 'what is'. I can post everyday no problem. I certainly have the desire, and willingness to look without self deception.

What are your expectations for this process?

To ...

Hi Pete, I'm Jon

My story? I guess I always knew myself to be that knowing awareness underneath it all, but I mistook myself to be finite for a long time. The rest is just a story of slowly waking up. The momentum of this finite self continues strongly.

I came to LU to clear up any mis-perceptions ...

Hi, I'm looking for an experienced guide, who is more of a quick fire guide than a long post guide, if that makes any sense.

Thank you :)