Wondering if you're available to guide a tenacious one.

So would you say that the "tension" is anticipation, or frustration, or what ?

It feels like resignation, to be honest with you. After so many years of this and that... authentically peeking behind every corner, what else can happen but a resignation. And there is something that is okay with that ...

[quote="vinceschubert"]When you recognized them as stories, what was your reaction ?

Familiarity. These stories show up regularly... and the projection is noticed usually after the emotions have subsided.

It would imply there's choice involved. Seems there isn't.
Say more on choice.

There is none ...

Still trying to figure out how to use B (bold), I (italicize), etc. Seems not to show up. Sorry all the dialogue appears in the same font.

You say stories, but do you Really recognize them as stories ?

Really recognize? Yes. Or I would have gone on my merry way still believing:

Vince is patronizing...
Vince is gloating that he's got something that i don't.
Vince gives 'clues' like it's a game.

i can only point at something that you ...

Hi Vince...

She's back after weeks of rambling stories that look like..

Vince is patronizing...
Vince is gloating that he's got something that i don't.
Vince gives 'clues' like it's a game.

This one grew up in a family of six brothers. You/Vince got the projection of years of interacting as ...

Possibly, but not likely.

Possibly? Looking ad infinitum? Wow. Don't believe that and sure hope you don't either. Why would this one even bother being on this site if you believe that?

Ha, alright, i'll give you a clue; "it's closer than your nose".

Gee, thanks.

musername wrote:
are simply ...

Ok, stay with your own direct experience while investigating.

Yes.... so sick and tired of 'usuing' everyone else in the world and their story of how it looks. Gurus, Byron Katie, Nisagarata, Ramana, Mooji, Gururaj, nuns from grade school who scared the holy bajesus out of us, priest who know ...

The documentary, I Am? No, not hindi.

Go to: http://www.amazon.com/I-Am/dp/B006VEFQE ... words=i+am

You will be able to rent for about $4 and stream it on your computer for a week or so.

So wonderful.

So, Mary Beth, is there an actual self, an I anywhere in any form ?
Has there ever been ?

Whoa.... seems there is some one 'out there' even if it doesn't look like there's one here. Looks as though there are numerous 'selves' all over the place in this view screen. But now that you ask... this ...

Without 'self' consciousness what inhibits expression of emotion ?

Yes... that yucky, pesky self consciousness. The feeling of it is so uncomfortable! Sometimes labeled as shyness. Conscious of a self that isn't even real. Conscious of a thought.

So just witnessing that sensation, that thought ...

Ha, thoughts are very clever at convincing you to stay in the familiar. i now recognize time as a fallacy, a concept just like 'self'. Does time exist anywhere in any way other than as thoughts now relative to memory thoughts or thoughts of future ?

No.

Certainly the sensation that emotions ...

Why does there have to be a 'self' or an I to experience it ?

Good question. Is experience simply occurring? This mind wants to keep every belief neatly in place... as if doing otherwise would make parent/grade school teachers/etc angry. The body feels resistance ....a pushing against not ...

So then the organism is simply the medium for expression? Sense input first then expression.

Huh? Sense input then expression? I don't get this.

Once the jig is up? Once the mind is understood to be phantom? The mind (thoughts) isn't phantom, it's the contents that are conceptual that might be ...

So how then can anything be 'seen' purely if using the organism?

Once the story component is recognized, the 'inappropriate' responses are dropped, this then allows those neuronal networks in the brain to atrophy, and something more akin to "purity" establishes.

So then the organism is simply ...