Patrick,

Apologies for the disappearance. I was getting frustrated and have been taking time to look more deeply at your questions. I thank you for your patience and efforts.

* is there an I thought in direct experience?
answer: No, there doesn't seem to be. There isn't. Just direct experience ...

Hi Patrick,

"Notice that all ideas about a self are just ideas, not real."

"I" think I do notice this...intellectually speaking...this doesn't seem to make a difference. It's like another belief that I've taken on.

"Drop all the thinking about this, notice directly what is real and what is not ...

bummer, I just replied, but the reply was lost somehow.

To summarize, the 2nd part of your query...What would happen if somebody behaves rudely? If you get sad or angry, what is it that happens?

Well, let's use tonight as an example. My wife comes to me and asks me to do something about our son ...

sorry been gone for a couple of days, Patrick.

Thanks for your patience and guidance.

I believe I've seen it, feel "I" have seen that there is no "I". A relaxation has occurred, a sense of just flowing with life as it is now...not getting caught up in the "I-ness" but knowing there just thoughts ...

I can't seem to find a "me"...

the only thing that comes is an intellectual explanation like this:

The "I" is simply phenomenon of a brain, neurons firing, perceptions coming in, being ordered by the brain and then come outputs in behavior. All of this structured or determined by DNA...the likes ...

Thank you, Patrick.

Making sense to whom?
Really look at this, where is there a you? What are you?
Look, look and look again until this is completely clear.
Don’t guess or speculate, don’t create another story.

OK, this is going to be looked at...where is the me/I ?

I'm having that feeling ...

Thank you Patrick.

" See when the I, the me or the sense of self thoughts and feelings come in after the direct experience.
See how a ‘I’ story is build from this thoughts and feelings.
Don’t believe the story, it are just thoughts and feelings coming and going.
Just see for what they are, don’t ...

Thank you for jumping in to assist.

What is direct experience? It is just "this-ness"; the pure apprehension of life. It is knowing that is un-mediated by thoughts and concepts...awareness of life as it is.

an example...picking up a cup to sip water...I could add descriptors, but that is just ...

Somehow there is a sense of being on the cusp or at the gate, or like a person standing on cliff's edge with a bungee cord and just needs that last push...through to clarity.

And to see through the concept of a real separate self that has never existed to begin with. This is understood and ...