Hi. Olof
I can understand very well what you have told- that there is no 'I', only thoughts are going on.
But the problem is how to see it or experience it.

Hi. Olof. Why no response.

There are three ways for a starter like me to go ahead:
1. To look inside and search for "me". That I am finding it very difficult.
2. Second is to watch the mind time to time throughout the day and if any negative or troublesome thoughts arise, just say to myself " that ...

The blank mind arises as a contrast to the times when the thoughts are generated in your brain. The feeling of self is just a belief you have and continue to hold. Looking at the mind is just a way of destroying that belief by collecting contradicting evidence.

The blank may not be really blank ...

My present is really a contradiction. While intellectually I have understood a lot. But the 'real experience' is not moved one bit.
Identification with thoughts is too much. While 'looking' either I am absorbed in thoughts or its a feeling there is no thoughts- a blank mind. But as you said this ...

Today looked a lot. I mean looked inside, but cannot break the impenetrable wall.

Describe your current sense of self. Look at it carefuly. What is it? What is it based on? Where is it?


There is understanding that this self is not located in this body anywhere.
The dense body of thoughts or series of thought commentary about self image or circumstances in life or that self ...

Its been a hectic day.

I will look at those questions for a day or two and see what comes up.

I am dead serious about this. No doubt about it.
I feel its just my way of looking has not been that effective or penetrating enough to see through the self. I am trying.

It seems like you think this is hard, like you have to gain a certain level of skill or achieve something before you can really start. That's just another tremendous mental block for you if you see it like that man.

Since the now is the only thing that exists, you can only see through your mind ...

So what happends when you look at the thought processes? Its thoughts talking to themselves. The you is the identification your talking about. Can you see how its not something real apart from an empty identification?

The process of noticing the thoughts passively has still not occurred.
But ...

No issues. Just inform me when you are busy.

I am trying out what you have told in the last thread. Still, identification with thoughts is a major hurdle which is preventing me to go further.

Hi. Where are you? No response from some days. Held up somewhere?

When watching thoughts, you can use some tricks that can help you get drawn out from the absorbtion in the mind. For example, feel how it is to be aware of awareness. Sit like that for a while, be aware of awareness. Where is the self when you do that?

I was trying this present moment awareness ...

Please ignore my earlier reply. Again problem with quotes.

You cant watch thought with thought mate. When you say you have driften, do you mean you fell away from what you were supposed to do? Your identification with thought is really strong if you see it like that. Just drop it all. Thoughts ...

You cant watch thought with thought mate. When you say you have driften, do you mean you fell away from what you were supposed to do? Your identification with thought is really strong if you see it like that. Just drop it all. Thoughts rise independently of you, they just rise. Just try to see them ...