Dear Patanjali,

how is it to wear "Patanjali goggles" :) ? Can you give a few examples?

And how should it be? Which of your expectations aren't fulfilled?


Patanjali goggles: I guess my insecurities, doubts, fears etc, all the stuff that has resulted in suffering for me is still there. I don't ...

:) Thank you for posting.

Several months ago I went through a one-on-one process and felt that I had seen no-self, but i find I am still seeking. Or rather there's this continuing seeking. I keep coming back to no-self.
I understand that I is a thought and I've seen how automatic this body's actions are, but I feel I'm still ...

The illusion of the self is mistaking perceived objects as a character, as commenting on who we are. So its interpreting thoughts, emotions, and sensations as being an amalgamation, one thing, that is this character 'I'.

The illusion weakens when each object is looked at, when the interpretation ...

What is illusion of self?

Have you seen the Jim Carrey movie, The Mask?

How it manifests?

It requires some kind of input, attention+attachment. Theres a thought, attention settles on it and it is believed, often without notice. When 'self' thoughts arise, they seem to be the basis of ...

How does it feel to see this?

Sensible. Joyful as well, this seems to have run through most of today and yesterday.

Do you feel ready now for a few final, "confirmation" questions?

I do, lets see what happens.

I can't believe how simple this really is.

ok, can you leave the expectations and just look into this what is right now.
Should be something different than it is? What?

Awareness. No wonder there was no big bang, its just recognition of what is always there.

Space+thought/emotion/sensation.

Tell me more about this waiting for a big bang.

Its like 'I should know if I've made it'.

A feeling of doubt, tension in my chest. Restlessness.
It goes when looked at.

This is all there is :)

:) No of course not, its all just thought.

There's still a temptation to say 'I...'

But it doesn't refer to anything.

There was a cramp in my foot, and the thought 'whose pain is that' came up, and its just a thought.

Still waiting for a big bang though. You may need to use a stick.

Who feels like smiling?

'I'm' going around in circles.

If there is no way to get out of this, nothing to get out of, do I just wait?

I know i can't just try with my mind, because it doesn't go anywhere.

'I'm' not even doing anything. These are just habitual thought processes, like the emotions ...

I want to be pushed, I want someone else to do the work for me. I want to get this over with so I can do other things.

'I'

I feel like smiling at all this, its silly.

Feelings of doubt keep popping up, 'I should be seeing the gate', 'I should be enlightened by now', 'I need to try harder'.

There is also a feeling of reluctance to look, laziness, there's a feeling like I want to be pushed, I want someone else to do the work for me. I want to get this over with so ...

I can't turn off the witnessing. I can't 'close my eyes'.

I feel like the lack of 'I' is sinking in. The sensation of 'I' is witnessed, but can't control the witnessing. This feels significant.

I look at these things, and the feeling just goes. They are old lines of thought activating.
If I look for who doesn't want to let go I find nothing, the feeling hangs there for a while and then goes, maybe returns later.

I'm still mistaking perception for 'I'.

It feels like there is something at ...

I see the seamlessness, there is no divide. Its all perception.


Pay attention is there any possibility to control thoughts, to predict next one, to stop them? Is there any evidence of some entity, agency external to experience here and now controlling it? Is there a need for it?

No to all ...