Thanks Alan, this video was very helpful. I notice the back and forth that is happening and I see the importance of continuing to question beliefs and orienting to truth as the process unfolds.

Sorry for the late response, I've been extremely busy with work over the last two weeks and haven't had much time to reflect. It still doesn't feel like it has really sunk in yet. I'm still caught in thinking throughout most of day to day activities.

There is still identification with thoughts. The ...

Ok, thanks Alan. I will report back in a few days.

How does it feel to realize this Chii?

The realisation seems so simple and obvious but it doesn't feel like much has changed. I do find I'm catching thoughts more often and resting into to the flow of experience.


What thoughts still attend this knowing that are trying to convince you ...

The belief in the perceiver was just another thought.
No actual perceiver can be found in direct experience.
No thinker of thoughts can be found in direct experience.
There is just the direct experience of seeing, hearing, feeling, tasting, smelling and thinking.
It's clear now.

Which is true....
thoughts appear in awareness or
awareness appearing as thought?


I see how awareness as a container for direct experience was just another belief.
It is awareness appearing as thought.



Look again ....... does direct experience depend on a sense of self in any way?

No ...

There is the direct experience of thoughts, the contents being the concepts, appearing in awareness.
There is also direct experience of seeing the object appearing in awareness too.
The illusion of a separate inner world is formed by the belief in concepts.
The sense of self is also formed by this ...

Do you see how the AE of the "contents of thought", concepts, create a seeming "separate inner world" when we believe the concepts to be the truth?

Yes I see how the illusion is formed by the beliefs.


Do you then recognize that which we call a cup is what we call a concept?

Yes I recognise ...

Hi Alan,

I would like to have another day to explore this please.

Thanks

In the experience of picking up a cup, looking at a cup, being thirsty, drinking from a cup, feeling the rim of a cup against your lips, having breakfast and so on are you actually experiencing a cup or are you merely reviewing your past experiences of what is labelled cup?

Yes, the story/labels ...

Is the directness of experiencing able to show itself any clearer in the absence of thought?

Yes


In the absence of thought is there any sense of a separate "me" present at all?

No, a sense of a separate "me" isn't there in the absence of thoughts.


In the experience of picking up a cup ...

Does that answer your question Chii?

Yes thanks Alan, your explanation is extremely clear.


And do you see how the word seems implies doubt at the same time?

Yes, I see that it implies the possibility that a seer still exists.


What is the thought that arises with the sense of "seem ...

As you catch them and feel resistance "pull back" ever so slightly from the senses and simply be aware of whatever is happening.
Let me know what you experience

Can you please clarify what you mean by this? I'm not sure I quite understand. Do you mean resistance to senses?

When you are aware of ...

As soon as I attempt the inquiry, a lot of resistance appears. Distracting thoughts, discomfort and there is a strong feeling of being tired. They seem to eventually disappear when I am able to catch and recognise them.


What in particular do you notice about what is going on in this experience of ...

Does seeing this bring with it any relief at all?

Yes there is some relief from not believing the thought.


And even when or if there is some relief and even with seeing this, is there still a sense of being still "bound" somehow?

There is a sense of being stuck when attempting to search for ...