This whole response is quite clear. Good stuff.

Now look at this supposed separate experiencer, experiencing all the stuff that just happens. Can this experiencer be found, or it is just a belief/a thought that happens when the question is asked?

Is there actually anyone "inside" separate from ...

Try again, with a piece of paper, sitting maybe at a cafe, and just make a mark every time you register a new thought. Do short periods with this, say 2-5 min. Let me know what is experienced.

still working on that



Tell me more concretely what happens doing this exercise several times anew ...

Do this exercise:


Stream Exercise


Imagine for a moment a scene, one of a little mountain stream which is tumbling down a
hillside gully, not far from its source. It has been raining and so the level is quite high.
Consider in your mind's eye, if you can, how it flows to the right over a little ...

When you ask, “Is there a self here outside of the whole owning things and doing things?” what do you find?
I don’t find anything else. Even the owning of things seems odd to me, although I know that I sometimes do it automatically.


Yes, clear.



I did the exercise with the gap, and to be ...

Do this exercise:


Stream Exercise


Imagine for a moment a scene, one of a little mountain stream which is tumbling down a
hillside gully, not far from its source. It has been raining and so the level is quite high.
Consider in your mind's eye, if you can, how it flows to the right over a little ...

“How does the voice/feeling sound that says this? Passionate? Desperate? Luke-warm? Detached-matter-of-factly?
Investigate this in direct experience in real time, repeating the sentence.”

I would say there’s like a subtle ‘emotional pay off’ feeling of certainty, like “yes this is just how it is ...

But it does still feel convincing

How does the voice/feeling sound that says this? Passionate? Desperate? Luke-warm? Detached-matter-of-factly?

Investigate this in direct experience in real time, repeating the sentence.




This is just a thought that creates a belief in a seeker who is not yet ...

When yuu ask "is there a self here outside of the whole owning things and doing things?" what do you find?

If what comes is "silence" or "nothing can be said": Stay there. What is that? And whenever there is a "getting out of that" with thoughts or actions, where does that come from?


Also do this ...

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The labelling exercise, this definitely brings attention to the non-solidity of different forms of experience. Like it brings attention to how vision is literally just images, while thoughts sort of abstract solidity out of it. Same with sound, and sensation etc. like these are all ...

I'm back :)


Thank you. It was a great exercise.
1.Whenever I added an “I” to the experience, I felt a sense of hardness in it. Whenever I described the experience as it is, I felt more flow and presence. Things just were as they were, and it felt right.
2. Without labels, there is just experience ...

Yes I would say that I have two “modes” where, there is a part of me which is sincerely motivated and interested in awakening. Then there is the very habitual mode of my brain which gets sucked in and complacent with daily stuff and distractions and then can forget about awakening. And only cares ...

Sorry for the slow replies I’ve been very busy the past couple weeks.


Got it. You might gently look into what that says about what your deepest motivations are about. Not assuming anything here... Just, to be honest about what is truly deeply wanted is part of this process. And what is truly ...

Good stuff!

Keep looking at this sense of self, what does it consist of? Is there a real self? If not, why is it still believed? What is being held on to?



Mind labelling experience

Here is an exercise which examines the way in which the mind labels experience - it takes
about 20 minutes and you ...

Hi Tal(os) :)

Beautiful.



It feels like it’s not actually clear what the separate self is



Exactly.


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For the next day, as many times as possible, just be curious "what is it that seemingly is the self" ? What is it that is experienced NOW as if it is me ? What is it that seemingly is ...

Welcome :)

What would you like me to call you on this forum? Some people use their normal name, some find another.



The process of writing seems to me to have great potential for this. As I'm writing these lines, I can already feel it.



1) Tell me more about that, what are you already ...