Hi Floris

What is it that is as you say "navigating what is happening"?

The I as a concept and how it functions in the world, even typing here is a concept of an I doing something, but nothing is really happening. So the I is in a way a tool, not one that is wielded just a concept of relation ...

Hi Floris

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

I creates the illusion of decision/intention/free will/choice/control by creating separateness, the I then responds ...

Hi Floris, hope you are having a good day too.

1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully ...

Hi Floris

It's because there is nothing to do, that you are free to enjoy things.

Yes, you are right, once again pointing exactly at what I needed to see.

After gating there is an aftercare group (facebook), it's a place for sharing experiences, etc. Also you can continue looking in another ...

Hi Floris

So how do you feel after seeing this? any doubt remaining?
Well it is liberating, with nothing to seek for what is there? Life will go on the same as before, yet it will never be quite the same. There is no doubt just some emotions that arise (worry that I will lose it again if I don't ...

Hi Floris

Ha, seems like some identification. Perhaps give the feeling a hug as if it's your child if it bubbles up again.

which 'you' are you referring to that can be the hearing/sensation?
I think you are right about the identification and I will try hugging it in the future, I also think it ...

Hi Floris

So would you say that you allow the emotions to be there, or do you have a sense that you are avoiding feeling them?
I think I was looking for it (not with this - in my life before), to be honest and this is quite embarrassing, it feels a lot like being loved felt like when I used to ...

Hi Floris

Is this inquiry a struggle for you emotionally?
Not actively, but I do find that I cry easily when I am contemplating these things a lot. Not happy, not sad, just emotion. After answering the other questions I will call it just a mounting sensation that leads to the crying. Perhaps I ...

Hi

Can you find these as two separate things? That is, a awareness of seeing, and seeing?

Well no awareness of seeing is seeing.

So have you looked yet at this director of seeing? Can you find it?

Still just awareness in the end.

Can you find the laptop and a noticing of the laptop as two ...

Hi Floris

- In seeing, is there anything else than seeing?
There is awareness of seeing. But it is not the seeing.

- Can you find something that is doing the seeing?
Seeing happens by itself, like breathing, but it can be directed by focusing on it.

- Can you find a seer?
No not a seer just an ...

Hi Floris

Yes I am still having difficulty with the quote function, mostly because I can't see what it will look like till after I post, I will try a different technique today.

- Does the I make choices?
When I think about a decision a lot it does feel like I made the decision. It happens very ...

Hi Floris

Today's question was very effective.

There is no separate self at all in reality. No agent that is in charge, no manager, no watcher, no owner of life - no doer of actions, no maker of decisions, no "entity" there at all - nothing, nada, zip; all there is is life flowing freely as one ...

Hi Floris

In answer to your questions on expectations:

- how will you feel after seeing there is no self?

Limitless, peaceful and detached....and yes also a little relieved.

- how will it happen/look like?



Do you still experience this fear? When does it come up?


These go hand in hand ...

Hi Floris you can call me Bettine

Thank you for being willing to be my guide, I gladly accept. I have seen your guidelines and requests and am ready to begin.

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What brings you to Liberation Unleashed?:
I have been listening to some satangs of Robert Adams and the message really resonates with me but I have difficulty not judging and not viewing myself as separate. In recent weeks I have been anxious because of external uncertainty and I am worried that I ...