Hi Vince,
ks "Could you ask her to really look again to find examples from her life when she is clearly not in control? Her answer to that question seems more intellectual than the other questions..."
Look for the situations where once you would have been under the illusion that decisions were ...

Hi Vince,
I did post a reply a couple of days ago.. Pretty long one from my phone
And I now see it never posted.. No wonder no reply from your end!
I will do it over tomorrow .
Thanks, Carol

Hi Vince,
I am looking. The air card in my Mac went out for some strange reason
and I will respond tomorrow when it is fixed.. Not so easy answering
on the phone.
Love carol

Hi Vince,
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever
No and no
2) "Describe your experience of the illusion of separate self, how it arises/disappears. Is that process always the same, or does it vary, and if so, how?
There is no ...

hi Vince,
i appear to be a little bit twisted up on this..haha lets see..
So, where in current experience is a 'now' ? Does 'now' exist outside of our current experiencing ?
"now" doesn't exist at all..another concept..an idea..thought

here we go..

Is there any way that current experience can ...

hi Vince,
Is the past more then memory ? Is the future more than fantasy ?
the past might be fantasy and the future a memory someday..its all interwoven..future and past are created by that idea of "self" to keep alive to keep the story of who i am or who i might be intact...they are no more than ...

Good evening Vince,
These are your stories about someone else's stories, are they not ?
yes, looking at them it appears as though i claimed them for my own..these are mainly things i learned from my
coaching training and all of the millions of books, classes and teachers...
Having made them ...

Hi again Vince,
more on this..
What i want you to do is to notice the next time a decision is called for, what actually happens. In what order do the thoughts of control happen. When the story; "I did that." happens..
there are no "decisions" are there? after watching this process some more ...

hi Vince,
In what order do the thoughts of control happen. When the story; "I did that." happens..
Right at the beginning...I am going to get a cup of coffee, no i am going to work on my speech, I am, I am , I need to
...i need to rehearse, i am going to get this memorized, then i will practice ...

hi Vince,
Is it possible that everything that has ever happened, did so without being controlled ?
I would say yes, control seems to be limiting, restricting, parameters, boundaries all of which dont make any sense in an infinite universe..it wouldn't work

So can you explain how it did happen ...

Hi Vince,
Confirm that the word "realization", was a literal 'making Real' ? Was a 'shift' experienced ?
It was a making real ...an eye opener..something that came to light that i had not been aware of on my own before, had read of but not felt the "oh I get it" of it before...in the moment a ...

ok, back again
Can you feel where the the feel-er ends and the felt starts ?
yes, i can feel the point where they intersect
If you focus intently on that sensation, does anything exist other than the sensation ?
no, only the sensation
When you remove the story elements (chair, bum, pressure ...

Morning Vince,
Did this persist when you became aware of it ?
it persisted until i answered the question and returned slightly again now until i put my full attention to it,
acknowledged it and my whole body relaxed.
What happened when you recognized this ?
i realized there isn't anything TO be ...

i take it that there were some sensations that arose ?
That there was something that might be described as resistance ? Something that, at a sensation level, was a contraction ?

Hi Vince..There was a definite contraction in my whole body, most pronounced in my chest and solar plexus. A feeling of ...

Hi Vince,
Do you (now) see that you say that you love that which you don't see ?
Yes, i see that now that you point it out. But part of me did not want to admit it, fought it a little bit.

Please tell me what is actual (in your experience). What is Truth ?

Truth is everything happening ...