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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:21 pm

Thank you. On my plate to respond to your questions.

In the meantime, continuing to practice.

I just watched a video from Ilona on youtube. From another Liberation Unleashed post. It made me realize/recognize:

When I look, things/objects/sensations that come up and then go away, are not me ... I should be able to always find who I really am, if I look. Who/what is always there? The empty expansiveness and peace. Even when I have pain & suffering, there are gaps. If there are gaps, that means the pain & suffering is not me.

Is this correct? Any thoughts.

Much love!

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:30 pm

Hey Stacy,

So here is a thought:

To find who I really am:

Sync into Awareness, and find anything showing up that comes and goes. This is not me. Look in Awareness for what is there and is always staying the same. I describe it as emptyness and peace. Find what stays the same and sync (feel) into it.

For me there is a mild buzzing body sensation in the heart (body) area that expands into my whole body. It sort of buzzes. Is that what I'm looking for? Sometimes this shows up in meditation.

Thank you!

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Tue Nov 11, 2025 11:32 pm

Hey Stacy,

One last thing to share:

On bad days, where I have a strong sense of ego or suffering, I am not able to sync into that peace/expansiveness.

It's very hard to get there.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 12:35 am

Hi,
To find who I really am:
THERE iS NO "YOU" TO FIND.
Is this correct? Any thoughts.
Thoughts are what we absolutely don't need, but yes.

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mild buzzing body sensation in the heart (body) area that expands into my whole body. It sort of buzzes. Is that what I'm looking for?
We are looking foe a shift in perception. Read Gateless Gatecrashers downloaded here from Resources, Books for examples.

Answer the Time questions & try this repeatedly.

https://youtu.be/fEv7UF8evQ4?si=0quQlOl6c4S5QvUU

Loving,
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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Wed Nov 12, 2025 1:59 pm

Time Exercise - There is a general assumption that there is linear time that started (if started at all) somewhere very far in the past and advances to the distant future. The present moment (now) is considered to be a very small fragment of time, or an event that is moving forward on a linear line, coming from the past and advancing to the future.
Okay, I am going to do this exercise. I am going to be honest and share exactly what is showing up, even when the mind/intellect says it knows the answer. Thoughts with content 'I need to answer this correctly.' 'I know this.' 'I've read this before.' 'I need to answer this correctly for Stacy'. My intention is to focus on direct experience, and what is known and be found, and share that, even if what is shared is not what mind/intellect knows/differs from.
But is there an experience of the ’now’ moving along the line of time?
Thoughts with content 'No, time does not exist in direct experience'. However, when I sink into direct experience and look, content shows up, content changes, content comes and goes, there is a small perceived understanding that content changed. There is a perceived understanding that something changed in awareness. There is no 'now', just a small perceived understanding that something changed.
Any experience of one ‘moment’ giving way to the next?
Yes, when I sink into direct experience and look, content shows up, content changes, content comes and goes, there is a small perceived change, when content changed.
Is there any actual or direct experience of one event following another?
The only thing noticed is a small perceived change that something changed in direct experience.
How fast is the ‘present moment’ actually moving?
There is no fast/speed in the 'present moment', but there is something that knows that something changed. Content just shows up with a small perceived change between events. However, sometimes the perceived/known changes occurs faster or slower, depending on how much is changing in awareness.
Just look at 'this moment', can you find a point where it began?
No. There is no beginning. Content just show up when looking. Thoughts with content 'A baby has no concept of time.' show up. Thoughts with content 'things just show up in awareness' show up.
How long does the ‘now’ last?
There is no 'now' to be found. Content just shows up in awareness, then changes.
Where does the ‘now’ start, and where does it end?
When you sink into direct experiece, there is no concept of 'now'/'end'. Content just shows up in awareness.
When does the ‘now’ exactly become the 'past'?
In direct/actual experience, 'past' cannot be found. The 'past' gets created in thought.
What is the ‘past’ in actual experience?
In direct/actual experience, 'past' cannot be found. Thoughts with content 'A thought' show up.
So is there actual experience of ‘time’ or thoughts about ‘time’?
Thoughts about 'time'. However, there is a small perceived change in awareness that things changed.

I find that the mind is attempting to take control and answers these questions intellectually. In each of these situations, I went to direct experience and tried to answer it from that standpoint. I shared what thoughts were showing up, to give context, so you know what is going on in actual/direct and false experience for me. However, I am trying to differentiate thoughts from direct experience.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:21 pm

Hi Blake

Good. Do stay with direct experience.

That is what our first pointers were about. Report what you see, hear, feel. taste & smell. There isn't much of that here.
small perceived change
Using only direct experience, describe this "small perceived change" you keep talking about. It sounds like it is a thought.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Wed Nov 12, 2025 3:34 pm

~ Stacy

"Thought is a garbage can. If you look into the garbage can, all you will get is garbage."

~ Adyashanti

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:36 pm

Hey Stacy,

Had a bad migraine yesterday. Practiced a little bit but not feeling well.

Watched the YouTube video:
https://youtu.be/fEv7UF8evQ4?si=DtkvdRUBqF2t1DEU

Will respond more today/tomorrow morning and answer your question.

Have a loving day.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Thu Nov 13, 2025 3:53 pm

Okay. Take care of that head.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:38 pm

Hey Stacy,

Thanks for sharing the resources:

Vince Schubert

Todd & Pernille
unfetteredmindfulness@gmail.com

Perfectly Okay
www.perfectlyokay.org

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Fri Nov 14, 2025 3:40 pm

Hey Stacy,

Just to share, just about over the cold/migraine.

Last couple of days have been challenging. Lots of frustration showing up. Lots of mental activity.

Just doing my best to sit with everything showing up, but its hard.

Slowly, getting back to normal.

-Blake

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 5:56 pm

Do you want to look directly at that?

What is "frustration?"

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Fri Nov 14, 2025 6:48 pm

Do you want to look directly at that?
Yes. Good idea.
What is "frustration?"
Frustration is a well-known sensation that shows up in awareness, that is labelled 'frustration' by thought.

However, the last couple of days, in experience, when the sensation showed up, powerful thoughts of 'not feeling well', 'this sucks', 'I always get sick after going to the gym', 'give me a break', and thus the thinking/emotional spiral loop started.

Because I was not feeling well (other sensations showing up), the "I always get sick ..." thought came out, and I definitely got sucked into thoughts/emotion. I felt like I had less self-control, because I felt really bad.

It was very tough, and I completely lost being mindful and being able to distance myself from thoughts and not being attached to them.

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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby Anastacia42 » Fri Nov 14, 2025 9:27 pm

Hu,
It was very tough, and I completely lost being mindful and being able to distance myself from thoughts and not being attached to them.
Sorry you feel bad. Yes, that can happen.

Some people find relief by paying close attention to The Feeling until they're no longer labeling it as Bad or painful. I've only been successful with this sometimes.

Take your time Get to feeling better. There is no hurry here.

Loving
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Re: Looking for Guide - To Know the Truth, Help Challenge/See

Postby BLovingJoy » Fri Nov 14, 2025 11:27 pm

Thanks Stacy. Feeling better now.

It's a good lesson for me, to recognize there is more work to do.

Thanks for being my guide!


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