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New thread for Tescher

Postby Damon Kamda » Thu Dec 29, 2016 5:51 pm

New thread for Tescher.

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Fri Dec 30, 2016 11:40 am

Tescher I have PM'ed you
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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Fri Dec 30, 2016 12:47 pm

did you come back looking for other insights, you were talking to Damon about 'unity' a lot?
yes, I approached this in the wrong way. I should of come to you. the experience of self seems to be more clear then ever.

upon looking, my experience is of no separate self, nothing but conditioned memories.

when asked
It seems that you see that all the stories and ideas there are about our self is not what you are. The question then is, what remains?
nothing but experience, awareness

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Fri Dec 30, 2016 9:07 pm

ok.

So if seeing no separate inherent self is the experience, then i'm still unclear what further guidance you are looking for here?
What is unresolved that still seems to need further inquiry?

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Sat Dec 31, 2016 4:47 pm

further integration, a desire to share what has so freely been given

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Sat Dec 31, 2016 5:45 pm

Under your previous name on this forum, you were turned blue and could have asked to become a guide on the facebook groups any time in the last 3 years, yet you opened a new name, asked to be guided from scratch by Damon and now are saying that was not necessary as what is pointed to here on LU has already been seen.

If you wanted further guidance post seeing no-self, then you had access to the unleashed section of the forum and again, could have asked for guidance on the further looking section at any time?

Can you see my ongoing confusion!

So lets clear up some of this with some basic questions.

Do you really feel that what is pointed to here on LU has been seen on an experiential level?

If so do you wish to answer the final 6 questions again and be reconfirmed?

If not would you like further guidance on seeing no separate self from me, here?

If so would you like further guidance which we an do on another forum or via PM, as this one is purely designed for inquiry into seeing the illusion of a separate self?

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:23 pm

I apologize for the confusion. I was unaware of other options. it was never the intention to deceive, just confusion as to where to go. here is my answer during the interview
What is your background in terms of seeking and inquiry?:

I have done this before, as a christen I no longer share those beliefs.
If so would you like further guidance which we an do on another forum or via PM, as this one is purely designed for inquiry into seeing the illusion of a separate self?
yes, i am clear as to the difference between that which is conceptional and that which is experienced and would love it if you could help me find a place that I can learn how to help others discover awareness and the illusion of self.

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Sat Dec 31, 2016 11:41 pm

with regards to the other questions, I am clear that what I saw with you previously, is still very clear, in fact even clearer then before. if there is a need to review what I saw, i am cool with that.

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Sun Jan 01, 2017 12:28 pm

how about we go through the standard questions, see if that raises any areas that myself or other guides here might want to address, then we can always take this onto anther area of the forum for further dialogue if that would be helpful? Does that sound ok?

If so here are the questions again. I have tweaked question 1 slightly :)

Don't worry about giving 'right answers', just answer from what is currently found in experience as far as possible.

1) Is there 100% confidence that the separate entity 'self' 'me' 'i' is an illusion?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before this was seen? Please report from recent day to day experiences.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?
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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Sun Jan 01, 2017 5:07 pm

1) Is there 100% confidence that the separate entity 'self' 'me' 'i' is an illusion?
yes
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
what has been read, learned or told about mind and body is not my experience. example: when considering where thoughts originate, I was taught "the brain"!! but that is not my direct experience, thru experience thoughts come from nothing and go nowhere there is no self where thoughts originate
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before this was seen? Please report from recent day to day experiences.
from experience there is a feeling of peace, of coming home to the truth, before there was looking.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
honesty, the ability to set aside assumptions and pre conditioned responses
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience
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there is nothing that make things happen, the idea of that is a delusion.

I recognize that after asking a friend where she thought, thoughts came from. She said science had taught her that thoughts came from the brain. This forced me to look further and upon looking there was a realization that although I had learned the same lesson about the brain, that was not my direct experience. My direct experience is there is nothing I can explain, about where thoughts come from. This was examed for over an entire day but that realization came almost immediately after my friend expressed her idea about thoughts.
6) Anything to add?
by direct experience, there is awareness, moment to moment, there is gratitude, there is love, gentleness, acceptance, a desire to be cool with the world around me, no need to defend anything about myself, because no me exists!!

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:22 pm

Bear with me whilst I ask the advice of some other guides. Thank you.
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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Mon Jan 02, 2017 11:56 pm

ok thanks

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Hannah B-T » Tue Jan 03, 2017 11:22 pm

One of the guides noticed your reply from question 5 was a copy and paste from answering Damon-

Could you give me some more recent day to day examples of how things look now?

Imagine talking to your best friend about the experience of seeing through the illusion of self.
Write in direct speech what you are telling them.
Speak from your heart

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Wed Jan 04, 2017 12:35 pm

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience
If I go by what I have been taught or learned it is easy for me to give a conditioned response to all of these questions. Its like reading a book about golf, does not make me a golfer, I must experience and practice.

My direct experience today is that there is nothing I can see, feel, or touch that is making decisions or choices. I cannot see my brain developing answers or making anything happen.

Today there is no "me" that is responsible for thought!!

Today there is no Core Me that is stable and unmoving!! (sounds funny to say)

Today there is only Awareness!!

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Re: New thread for Tescher

Postby Tescher » Wed Jan 04, 2017 4:41 pm

An unpolluted childlike awareness with a level discernment that allows me to function in the world. Lately that has become more difficult. I'm experiencing a difficult time remembering very much of anything. My immediate reaction was to come here.


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