The Gate

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
A guide might help me to see that I'm causing some serious unnecessary suffering because of the constant thoughts that have been swirling around in my head for a very long time. Maybe a guide could help me see, or truly experience how what I really am is just a part of a whole, universal flow of all that is.

What are you looking for at LU?
I want to 'experience' there is 'no self' instead of just 'knowing' it with my mind. I still feel like there is some sort of independent entity here that can
make good or bad choices. I want to be in flow so I can stop second guessing if I'm doing the right thing (that will cause joy in the future) or the wrong thing (which will cause pain in the future). I'm looking for someone to help me experience (really feel it knowingly with my body, not just cognitively with my head) what it's like to realize there is no separate human person here affecting the world outside of me with my choices.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
Simply some pointing...guiding me to THIS and how everything else is simply a thought...over and over and over again. Maybe to help me see where I'm getting stuck over and over again. Maybe someone can help me reflect on certain experiences I have that might feel close to what the fetters are pointing at. Maybe a guide can answer some questions I that come up that have me feeling doubt.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I have read some Ramana Maharshi books. I have done several vipassana retreats. I have done an online retreat with Angelo Dilullo at SimplyAlwaysAwake. Most recently I am going through The Awakening Curriculum with Pernilla Damore on her NonDuality YouTube channel.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
A guide might help me to see that I'm causing some serious unnecessary suffering because of the constant thoughts that have been swirling around in my head for a very long time. Maybe a guide could help me see, or truly experience how what I really am is just a part of a whole, universal flow of all that is.

What are you looking for at LU?
I want to 'experience' there is 'no self' instead of just 'knowing' it with my mind. I still feel like there is some sort of independent entity here that can
make good or bad choices. I want to be in flow so I can stop second guessing if I'm doing the right thing (that will cause joy in the future) or the wrong thing (which will cause pain in the future). I'm looking for someone to help me experience (really feel it knowingly with my body, not just cognitively with my head) what it's like to realize there is no separate human person here affecting the world outside of me with my choices.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
Simply some pointing...guiding me to THIS and how everything else is simply a thought...over and over and over again. Maybe to help me see where I'm getting stuck over and over again. Maybe someone can help me reflect on certain experiences I have that might feel close to what the fetters are pointing at. Maybe a guide can answer some questions I that come up that have me feeling doubt.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I have read some Ramana Maharshi books. I have done several vipassana retreats. I have done an online retreat with Angelo Dilullo at SimplyAlwaysAwake. Most recently I am going through The Awakening Curriculum with Pernilla Damore on her NonDuality YouTube channel.

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11

Hi Jahi I'm Stafford, Welcome to LU & Apologies for the wait...!!! I would Love to Guide You Through this If You are still interested...!?!
If so We can get Started as soon as You reply back Sincerely Stafford

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Hi Stafford.
Yes. I'd like to get started right away.

Hi Jahi, Apologies I had to clean house today.
Anyhow Let's start Here Exactly Where You are Now To T.H.IS (Too Here IS) Lol
" Maybe someone can help me reflect on certain experiences I have that might feel close to what the fetters are pointing at. Maybe a guide can answer some questions I that come up that have me feeling doubt."

May I Also ask What Experiences, Fetters, Questions, Feelings & or Doubts can Actually separate Anyone or Thing from THIS...???

So my Dear Friend Love Being Here with You &
I'm going to try and be Here every Day until All Questions are Cleared & if either one of Us can't make it because Life Happens Lol We'll Leave a message...!!!
Sending much Love Stafford ;~}=_={~;



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Hi Stafford.

It feels like "me" IN HERE because when I cover my ears, the sound OUT THERE is no more. This tells me it is indeed separate from me.

I feel there is a physical boundary between me and the wall, me and the table, me and the refrigerator. There is clearly a boundary between me and the world out there since I cannot put my hand through any of those things out there. I am in my physical body and the objects are out there, not in my body.
There is distance. If I am sitting here at the kitchen table, I can’t touch the refrigerator. But if I stand and walk toward it, I can get close enough to it that I can touch it. My hand doesn’t go through it. It’s solid. And I’m solid. The solidity of the refrigerator is made of metal. The solidity of me is made of flesh.

No one else can hear the thoughts in my head. So, they must be mine...or if they are not mine and are just random, then still, at least there is a boundary of some sort since I can hear them in my head and you cannot.


I am a do-er. I make decisions that will affect my life in the future in some way. There is cause and effect. There is time. For example, if I don’t choose to be a kind, gentle, patient with my children, they will suffer and grow up to be emotionally unhealthy adults.
If I don’t choose to exercise and eat healthy, I will gain weight and will need to buy new clothes.
If I don’t force (control!) my child to go outside and get some fresh air and sunshine, he will be unhealthy physically and emotionally because of lack of physical movement and vitamin D.

All of these thoughts are part of THIS. but THIS is constantly changing. It’s always THIS and yet THIS is constantly cascading into a different THIS every millisecond. And I feel like I have (at least somewhat of) a say in how THIS will be in the upcoming millisecond.

also, just to let you know, my main practice right now is "Can I be in a body where I feel...?" That's where I try to keep my attention, as the sensations in the body. More and more I am noticing a sensation when something doesn't the way I wanted. More and more I am able to notice the sensations without doing anything...just being in the space/gap and acknowledging that it's present. More and more I am able to acknowledge it and leave it. My only task is to notice the sensation without reacting.

Hi Jahi, Great Answers...!?! Let's start with Your First Answer...???

"It feels like "me" IN HERE because when I cover my ears, the sound OUT THERE is no more. This tells me it is indeed separate from me."

What is "IT" that Feels LIKE Me...???

And as Feeling Goes can Feelings Lie...?!?

And Do You Need The Word Me Too Be...!?!

Ok and Now
my Dear Friend I would like You too Look into the Sense since That's what You are Working on as Well...!!!
Sight Sound Touch Taste Breathing & Thinking...!!!

Not What You're Seeing But When...?!?

Not What You're Hearing But When...?!?

Not What You're Feeling But When...?!?

Not What You're Tasting But When...?!?

Not How You're Breathing But When...?!?

Not What You're Thinking But When...?!?

Now is The Before or After All This...???

Ok Stopping Here so We don't get ahead of Everything & Great Work ...!!!
Sending much Love Stafford ;~}=_={~;


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What is "IT" that Feels LIKE Me...???

IT'S A PRESENCE. IT'S LIKE A BLOB OF AWARENESS THAT’S INSIDE MY SKIN. IT'S A CHUNK OF SPACE THAT’S INSIDE MY SKIN. IT’S THE PULSING OF ENERGY.IT'S A MASS IN HERE IN THE SKIN THAT'S DENSER THAN THE AIR ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY SKIN, LIKE THE DENSITY OF MY MUSCLES AND BONES AND BLOOD AND EVERYTHING BEHIND MY SKIN


And as Feeling Goes can Feelings Lie...?!?
I GUESS THEY CAN, LIKE, THE FIGHT OR FLIGHT MECHANISM...MY BODY MIGHT FEEL LIKE IT’S ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED SO IT GETS READY WHEN IN ACTUALITY THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN ACTUAL THREAT.
I GUESS A FEELING CAN’T LIE NOR CAN THEY BE HONEST. THEY ARE SIMPLY...SENSATIONS? THEY CAN’T SPEAK LIES BUT THEY CAN BE AN INDICATION OF SOMETHING? LIKE ONE OF THE SIX SENSES.

And Do You Need The Word Me Too Be...!?!
NO, I AM HERE WITHOUT THE WORD ‘ME’. IT'S JUST A WORD, A POINTER, A CONCEPT, A THOUGHT. THE SENSATION REMAINS WITHOUT THE WORD.

Ok and Now
my Dear Friend I would like You too Look into the Sense since That's what You are Working on as Well...!!!
Sight Sound Touch Taste Breathing & Thinking...!!!

Not What You're Seeing But When...?!?

Not What You're Hearing But When...?!?

Not What You're Feeling But When...?!?

Not What You're Tasting But When...?!?

Not How You're Breathing But When...?!?

Not What You're Thinking But When...?!?

ARE YOU ASKING ME TO NOTICE WHEN I'M NOTICING THEM? WELL, JUST NOW WHEN I WAS ANNOYED BY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

Now is The Before or After All This...???
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION. ARE YOU ASKING ME WHEN THE ‘NOW’ IS? ARE YOU ASKING ME IF THE ‘NOW’ IS BEFORE OR AFTER THE NOTICING ‘WHEN’?

What is "IT" that Feels LIKE Me...???

IT'S A PRESENCE. IT'S LIKE A BLOB OF AWARENESS THAT’S INSIDE MY SKIN. IT'S A CHUNK OF SPACE THAT’S INSIDE MY SKIN. IT’S THE PULSING OF ENERGY.IT'S A MASS IN HERE IN THE SKIN THAT'S DENSER THAN THE AIR ON THE OUTSIDE OF MY SKIN, LIKE THE DENSITY OF MY MUSCLES AND BONES AND BLOOD AND EVERYTHING BEHIND MY SKIN


And as Feeling Goes can Feelings Lie...?!?
I GUESS THEY CAN, LIKE, THE FIGHT OR FLIGHT MECHANISM...MY BODY MIGHT FEEL LIKE IT’S ABOUT TO BE ATTACKED SO IT GETS READY WHEN IN ACTUALITY THERE MIGHT NOT BE AN ACTUAL THREAT.
I GUESS A FEELING CAN’T LIE NOR CAN THEY BE HONEST. THEY ARE SIMPLY...SENSATIONS? THEY CAN’T SPEAK LIES BUT THEY CAN BE AN INDICATION OF SOMETHING? LIKE ONE OF THE SIX SENSES.

And Do You Need The Word Me Too Be...!?!
NO, I AM HERE WITHOUT THE WORD ‘ME’. IT'S JUST A WORD, A POINTER, A CONCEPT, A THOUGHT. THE SENSATION REMAINS WITHOUT THE WORD.

Ok and Now
my Dear Friend I would like You too Look into the Sense since That's what You are Working on as Well...!!!
Sight Sound Touch Taste Breathing & Thinking...!!!

Not What You're Seeing But When...?!?

Not What You're Hearing But When...?!?

Not What You're Feeling But When...?!?

Not What You're Tasting But When...?!?

Not How You're Breathing But When...?!?

Not What You're Thinking But When...?!?

ARE YOU ASKING ME TO NOTICE WHEN I'M NOTICING THEM? WELL, JUST NOW WHEN I WAS ANNOYED BY SOMETHING THAT HAPPENED.

Now is The Before or After All This...???
I DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS QUESTION. ARE YOU ASKING ME WHEN THE ‘NOW’ IS? ARE YOU ASKING ME IF THE ‘NOW’ IS BEFORE OR AFTER THE NOTICING ‘WHEN’?

Great Answers & I So Appreciate Your Enthusiasm Passion & Honesty & Yes I think You understand my Pointing but not sure at the same time ...?!?
Oh & When I'm Capitalizing my Words I Promise I'm not Yelling Lol it's just my Strange Way of Writing Lol
Love To arrange a Zoom meeting to clarify We're not misunderstanding each other...!?!

However I'm going to ask or Point in This Way,
What does the Personal Me have to do to Be &
Is The Personal Me an Image...?!?
And can an Image Effect Being...!?!

Ok My Dear Jahi keep the Awnser Simple as You can & PM me about a Zoom meeting if You want...!!!

Love Being Here with You Sincerely Stafford
;~}=_={~;

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What does the Personal Me have to do to Be &
The personal me doesn’t have to do anything to be. Be-ing is already happening and then I put the label of ‘me’ on top of the Be-ing. The personal me is the one that notices the be-ing and has everything to say about it!

Is The Personal Me an Image...?!?
This personal me is an image yes. There is the image when I look at the mirror. And other people...they are them as images...their bodies. And when they look at me, they see me...me the image...me, as my body.

And can an Image Effect Being...!?!
The image itself can’t effect the being.But the thoughts can effect the being. For example, if I think something bad is going to happen in the future, that effects the being because then a feeling/sensation arises in the being of constriction or warmth or whatever else the emotion is...

What does the Personal Me have to do to Be &
The personal me doesn’t have to do anything to be. Be-ing is already happening and then I put the label of ‘me’ on top of the Be-ing. The personal me is the one that notices the be-ing and has everything to say about it!

Is The Personal Me an Image...?!?
This personal me is an image yes. There is the image when I look at the mirror. And other people...they are them as images...their bodies. And when they look at me, they see me...me the image...me, as my body.

And can an Image Effect Being...!?!
The image itself can’t effect the being.But the thoughts can effect the being. For example, if I think something bad is going to happen in the future, that effects the being because then a feeling/sensation arises in the being of constriction or warmth or whatever else the emotion is...

Yes Yes & So Close it Seems Like an image Effects Being with Feeling/Sensations & So That Would mean Being isn't Changeless;
or is Feelings/Sensations an Image as Well...!?!
Let's Start Here with Our Zoom meeting Later today if that time works for You Just let me know & Check Your PM.
You're moving along Great...!!!
Looking forward to seeing You on Zoom Sending much Love Stafford
;~}=_={~;

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Hi Jahi Here's One of the Books I was talking about!!!//cloud.tapatalk.com/s/6428a3c8d22 ... ecords.pdf

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Yes Yes & So Close it Seems Like an image Effects Being with Feeling/Sensations & So That Would mean Being isn't Changeless;

Ok. No the being isn't changeless. It flows and changes . It flows like the river you mentioned?


or is Feelings/Sensations an Image as Well...!?!
Yeah the feeling/sensations are just being changing but with the word "feeling" on top. "Feeling" and "sensation" are words to describe it...

Thank you for the book❤️

Yes Yes & So Close it Seems Like an image Effects Being with Feeling/Sensations & So That Would mean Being isn't Changeless;

Ok. No the being isn't changeless. It flows and changes . It flows like the river you mentioned?


or is Feelings/Sensations an Image as Well...!?!
Yeah the feeling/sensations are just being changing but with the word "feeling" on top. "Feeling" and "sensation" are words to describe it...

Thank you for the book

Having a moment of not being able to Put in Words like We were talking about so going to get back later today or tonight Thank You so much Jahi & You are Welcome for the Book...!!!
Sending much Love Stafford
;~}=_={~;

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Yes Yes & So Close it Seems Like an image Effects Being with Feeling/Sensations & So That Would mean Being isn't Changeless;

Ok. No the being isn't changeless. It flows and changes . It flows like the river you mentioned?


or is Feelings/Sensations an Image as Well...!?!
Yeah the feeling/sensations are just being changing but with the word "feeling" on top. "Feeling" and "sensation" are words to describe it...

Thank you for the book

Having a moment of not being able to Put in Words like We were talking about so going to get back later today or tonight Thank You so much Jahi & You are Welcome for the Book...!!!
Sending much Love Stafford
;~}=_={~;

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Hi Jahi; Can Words Ever describe What This Actually IS or Actually Point to Anything or Anybody...?!?
Thanks so much for Your Patience Sending much Love Stafford ;~}=_={~;

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