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Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 12:19 pm
by KirstyA
LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this? I am no different from you. I am just this arising and you are this arising. There’s nothing here separate to you.
What are you looking for at LU? I would like a guide please to guide me further. I’ve spent time thought watching and read Maharshi. I’m now looking for the next steps snd would really love to work with a guide please. I would really appreciate working with another.
What do you expect from a guided conversation? Support on what to focus on and next steps. I expect to have an understanding of where I am at and be able to get to any blind spots and really delve into doing the work. I would love to speak with someone who can see my blind spots or blocks.
What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry? I’ve seeked for 20 years many many many modalities and practiced and recently finished A Course In Miracles too.
On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 11
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 7:20 pm
by warissem
Hi
I am glad to accompany you to see through the illusion of a separate self.
During our dialog, some rules must be respected :
Come here at least once a day (don't wait expressely for emails, sometimes it does not work)
Leave aside all books, audios, videos about spirituality
Be honest with yourself when giving answers to my questions : the answer must be given from direct experience not from memory nor from what you read or heard. Direct experience is the clue : looking at direct experience (seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting, touching or sensations)
Read the disclaimer text here : viewtopic.php?f=16&t=221
Learn how to use the quote function here : viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
Best for you
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:29 pm
by KirstyA
Thank you Warrisem. Gratitude. Ready.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 9:31 pm
by KirstyA
Sorry Warissem, not Warrisem.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 10:07 pm
by warissem
Hi
What are you expecting after having seen that there is no you, no separate self ?
Will there be any change in what is going on ?
How do you define yourself in your own words ?
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2022 11:48 pm
by KirstyA
I’m expecting that deepening needs to happen, momentum within the self equity so that liberation can happen. Something (the mind) is scared to liberate. There is self sabotage still happening - smoking drinking and although it’s just what’s happening, there’s something wondering if that needs to stop to liberate but it doesn’t stop. Still feels like there is a me, not at all as much as there used to be. I am a being, a breathing entity, waking up.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:40 am
by warissem
Good morning
First learn how to use the quote function here : viewtopic.php?f=4&t=660
Select each question and answer for it then select another question and answer for it. There is a need to give answers to each question. It is important.
Then please come back to the previous questions and give answers to each one of them separately.
What are you expecting after having seen that there is no you, no separate self ?
Will there be any change in what is going on ?
How do you define yourself in your own words ?
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Thu Jun 09, 2022 10:01 pm
by KirstyA
What are you expecting after having seen that there is no you, no separate self ?
I am expecting that I have to work harder on self enquiry and/or surrender to what is to liberate. I am expecting that I need to give up smoking and drinking to liberate.
Will there be any change in what is going on ?
Perhaps bliss and joy.
How do you define yourself in your own words ?
I am a this arising as Kirsty and I am whatever this is being. I sing when this sings, I cook when cooking happens, I have no free will.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:39 am
by warissem
Hi
I am expecting that I have to work harder on self enquiry and/or surrender to what is to liberate. I am expecting that I need to give up smoking and drinking to liberate.
There is nothing or no one to liberate. Taking care of addiction problems is not in the agenda of this forum. Have you read the disclaimer text?
Perhaps bliss and joy.
I don’t want to fool you. The goal of this dialog is to make you SEE through the illusion of a separate self, a you. Expecting bliss and joy will imply frustration.
I am a this arising as Kirsty and I am whatever this is being. I sing when this sings, I cook when cooking happens, I have no free will.
Where is this “I” pointing to in your sentence ? LOOK at direct experience.
Looking at direct experience means : seeing, hearing, smelling, tasting and touching (sensations). Concepts are only used for communication here.
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 12:01 pm
by KirstyA
There is nothing or no one to liberate. Taking care of addiction problems is not in the agenda of this forum. Have you read the disclaimer text?
Thank you I have read it and old patterns are falling away naturally. Does conditioning fall away totally too?
How do you define yourself in your own words ?
This is all there is, this experiencing this. There is no I, there is nothing here doing.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 7:28 pm
by warissem
Hi
I would like to know about what is going on there.
What is seeking liberation ?
What is seeing and understanding these words ?
What is a self in your own words ?
Kind regards
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Fri Jun 10, 2022 11:05 pm
by KirstyA
What is seeking liberation
The observer is seeking liberation from mind
What is seeing and understanding these words ?
Oneness
What is a self in your own words ?
It is a character created via the narration of mind and it’s conditioning that believes it has free will and claims ownership of what’s already happening.
Thank you.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 8:47 am
by warissem
Good morning
The observer is seeking liberation from mind
Apply the key of looking at direct experience to your answer : do you see that it is a train of thoughts ?
Example : where does the word “observer” point to ? apply this sort of question to each word used in the sentence and find out its existence in the field of senses appearances.
Oneness
Look at what you call “oneness” and describe it for me.
It is a character created via the narration of mind and it’s conditioning that believes it has free will and claims ownership of what’s already happening.
Do you see that this sentence
“believes it has free will and claims ownership of what’s already happening” is inside the narration ?
Kind regards
Warissem
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2022 9:30 pm
by KirstyA
Apply the key of looking at direct experience to your answer : do you see that it is a train of thoughts ?
Example : where does the word “observer” point to ? apply this sort of question to each word used in the sentence and find out its existence in the field of senses appearances.
Thank you for these questions I am away with my 8 year old and need a couple of days for these questions. Thank you.
Re: Please guide me
Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2022 9:30 am
by KirstyA
What is seeking liberation
Something that is uncomfortable with what is.
What is seeing and understanding these words ?
I don’t know
What is a self in your own words ?
Something that thinks it’s separate to everything else