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Here and Now

Postby Chronophonix » Fri Jan 13, 2012 10:55 pm

Hello !

I went on this forum to get a motivation for writing about what I'm living; living in peace is very comfortable, but when I think about all these people who do not acceed to this peace, who don't even know that it's possible, I tell myself that maybe I have something to do, as you all do it, and do it well. I feel a kind of responsability, not personal, but human, the responsability of a human being for other human beings. I don't feel it as an obligation, just a direction where naturally to go, with simplicity and humility. I can teach how to play piano, because I know how to do this; but to teach how to be in peace is not easy for me at all, and may be I will never do it; that is what I have to find, and your forum is an opportunity for this.
Just a few words to explain what I call "living in peace". I live now, without past, without future, and testify that the only reality is here and now, there is really nothing else; there may come a thought of "yesterday", or a thought of "to morrow" : only thoughts, nothing! (I quote a french liberated man, Stephen Jourdain, because I never find better words to say it :just a thought, nothing!)
I immediately notice one question you ask : "Is there a you, at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?"
To be free from identification suppose that the thought "I am me" is clearly seen, and seen as a thought, nothing, but this suppose also to be free from the "emotional conviction" (I quote Andrew Cohen, this expression is great!) of being a "me", in other words to be free from having (My master, Arnaud Desjardins felt an illumination when his master, Swami Prajnanpad told him :"Arnaud, to be free is to be free from having"), "having" being here used in a general way : having power, having notoriety, having a lot of money, having a lot of sex, a lot of food, having a so nice and special personality, and so on, and so on...
I will stop here for today, and wait for your suggestions.
In communion
Michel (my real second name)


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Re: Here and Now

Postby Ilona » Fri Jan 13, 2012 11:02 pm

Hi Cronophonix, nice intro. it's a pleasure to connect. love to hear about your human responsibility to help fellow humans.
we do not tech peace, that is quite impossible. we only point to where to look to resolve confusion that is in a way to peace. seems working pretty well :))

could you tell us a bit more about your awakening. i know it's just thoughts, nothing, but it would be great if you shared.

how did it happen, when and what triggered seeing? curious.

thank you.
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Re: Here and Now

Postby Chronophonix » Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:46 am

Hi Ilona

The first thing I have to say is that my master, Arnaud Desjardins, never said of himself he was awaked; but he was recognised by many spiritual masters as a great master himself, and I think that nobody could deny this. He had a very beautiful relationship with american master Lee Lozowick, aka Mister Lee. Arnaud left his body last summer, in August, Mister Lee in november 2010.
Anyway, I can say about myself that the awakening process has been long; now, the gate is behind me, but the process continue.
The first event that triggered seeing was after some uses of psychedelic substances, which broke the thick fog of my mind, and pushed me to search an evolution way without using those substances; so I began to spend each year one or more weeks at Arnaud's ashram, and to practice his teachings (a simple word can resume all his teaching : YES, yes to what is, as it is, here and now); one time, I was there for 15 days, and in the evening, during a satsang, the evidence of non-separation between me and the others, between me and the world fell on me like a grace; the strong effect of this didn't last more than one day, but it marked me definitively. Then, the evolution has been progressive; it stopped for two or three years until a very big trouble in my family life let me in a situation where the unique solution was to let it go, totally : this has radically destroyed my identification. After that, the thoughts began to appear as they actually are : nothing! In every day life, this mean that I am unable to project anything, reproach anything to anybody, worry about anything, I feel free from money, notoriety (I like that people read my blog, but if tomorrow I had to close it for one reason or another, it would be OK) I listen to the people without judgement nor commentary, I'm more confiant in direct perception than intellectual or affective perception. By direct perception, I mean that I'm directly connected to the world, without thinking about, without emotions, only with great feeling.
I look at my watch, time to go to sleep, so I will come back a next time; tell me your feelings about all this; but remember, I absolutely not sure that I could transmit anything to anybody...
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Michel
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Re: Here and Now

Postby Ilona » Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:08 pm

Thanks Michael for your post. It's really a pleasure to invite you to join out Facebook groups.

What we do here is nothing to do with transmitting :) if you want to use this word, yeah, we all are transmitors, hihi, but transmitting happens without us doing it.

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Re: Here and Now

Postby Chronophonix » Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:30 pm

Hi Ilona
"but transmitting happens without us doing it " Sure, I agree 100% with this.
Which facebook group should I join ?
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Michel
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Re: Here and Now

Postby Chronophonix » Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:55 pm

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Where could be an "I" here...
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