Hi,
I am seeking a guide. Is anyone available?
Hancock.
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Hi Hancock,
I'd be happy to help out.
Please give me some background on your situation.
What are you expecting to happen? Where are you at currently? Why has this inquiry piqued interest in you?
Please be thorough - the more you write, the better my understanding of how best to work together.
Be sure to check in once per day, and (at least temporarily) relinquish all methods of seeking and inquiry.
I'd be happy to help out.
Please give me some background on your situation.
What are you expecting to happen? Where are you at currently? Why has this inquiry piqued interest in you?
Please be thorough - the more you write, the better my understanding of how best to work together.
Be sure to check in once per day, and (at least temporarily) relinquish all methods of seeking and inquiry.
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Please give me some background on your situation.
1. I'm struggling with life decisions over the years, and feel badly about how I did certain things in my personal life. These thoughts lead to self doubts and fear.
What are you expecting to happen? Where are you at currently? Why has this inquiry piqued interest in you?
2. I'm keeping an open mind. Perhaps seeing the truth of who I am might lead to relief, but I am aware that this might not be a result. I hope I might come to a place of acceptance of what is, and recognize that they are the impersonal play of life. I have read a great deal in this area and am familiar of the outline of this teaching. I am interested it this teaching because I am hopeful for personal peace.
1. I'm struggling with life decisions over the years, and feel badly about how I did certain things in my personal life. These thoughts lead to self doubts and fear.
What are you expecting to happen? Where are you at currently? Why has this inquiry piqued interest in you?
2. I'm keeping an open mind. Perhaps seeing the truth of who I am might lead to relief, but I am aware that this might not be a result. I hope I might come to a place of acceptance of what is, and recognize that they are the impersonal play of life. I have read a great deal in this area and am familiar of the outline of this teaching. I am interested it this teaching because I am hopeful for personal peace.
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Wonderful !
I want you to try something. Close your eyes for a bit and ease your mind. When you are ready, open your eyes and imagine you have JUST at that very moment been placed on earth. You have no identity, no past, no story. As the spontaneously appearing pre identity awareness, begin to notice all phenomena. Pretend you have never had a thought before in your life. As thoughts begin coming consider that they are thoughts floating about in this terrestrial environment you've just arrived at. See through this exercise the absurdity of claiming the thought stories as a self.. YOUR self. Absolute nonsense. This is best practiced in the morning upon waking up, when you have nothing urgent to attend to. Let me know about this experience
I want you to try something. Close your eyes for a bit and ease your mind. When you are ready, open your eyes and imagine you have JUST at that very moment been placed on earth. You have no identity, no past, no story. As the spontaneously appearing pre identity awareness, begin to notice all phenomena. Pretend you have never had a thought before in your life. As thoughts begin coming consider that they are thoughts floating about in this terrestrial environment you've just arrived at. See through this exercise the absurdity of claiming the thought stories as a self.. YOUR self. Absolute nonsense. This is best practiced in the morning upon waking up, when you have nothing urgent to attend to. Let me know about this experience
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I live in the Central Time Zone of the USA. My a.m. seems to be your p.m. so our communication should work just fine. I'll check my in-box first thing in the mornings.
I love the exercise! You invited me to imagine that I just arrived on earth without an identity or story. This put me in a space where everything I saw was new, including thoughts. It's silly to believe that thoughts are MY thoughts from this perspective. They are just thoughts, just as the tall things I'll call trees don't belong to me. It occurred to me that the exercise put me in the Adam State of Mind. Whether I believe the Biblical story is irrelevant. What's important here is that nothing had been named in this Adam State. I doubt that thoughts were claimed. This was the natural state. The state without a story. It was truly the state of the don't know mind.
In this space or state or this new planet, I don't know what things are called, or what to make of the thoughts that I know notice. I walk to a zoo and I see animals; people call them lions, tigers, and bears. Oh my! I just see them as they are, and I use those labels without a story. They are not my lions. They are lions. They are not my tigers. They are tigers. They are not my bears. They are bears.
The echoes coming through my mind, they tell me, are thoughts. But, but, I notice that they are just like the lions, tigers, and bears! They are not MY thoughts. I have no story for them, so I look at them with curiosity. What do they mean? One thought said: You made a mistake. I wonder: what is a mistake. I have no reference point for this without a story. Since I just arrived I have no story, so, what they tell me are thoughts are meaningless to me. They are a curiosity.
I'm now in the garden of what they call flowers. I can only marvel at them. Look at these things...what a variety of colors and shapes and sizes. They are just there; they are not mine. No ownership for me, and I readily realize it.
Oh, I'm now being flooded by what they call thoughts. I am so curious. Look at that one: what does it say? What does that mean? They are not mine; no stories. I'm accused by someone of something. What does that me? No story for me. No association. Does he have a story? Is he believing something he thinks is true? Curious.
Thanks for this fun exercise.
Another question: I'm new to this. Is there an easy way for me to find this thread when I look for your post tomorrow? When I entered today I had to scroll through a lot of stuff to find our communication.
Peace,
Hancock
I love the exercise! You invited me to imagine that I just arrived on earth without an identity or story. This put me in a space where everything I saw was new, including thoughts. It's silly to believe that thoughts are MY thoughts from this perspective. They are just thoughts, just as the tall things I'll call trees don't belong to me. It occurred to me that the exercise put me in the Adam State of Mind. Whether I believe the Biblical story is irrelevant. What's important here is that nothing had been named in this Adam State. I doubt that thoughts were claimed. This was the natural state. The state without a story. It was truly the state of the don't know mind.
In this space or state or this new planet, I don't know what things are called, or what to make of the thoughts that I know notice. I walk to a zoo and I see animals; people call them lions, tigers, and bears. Oh my! I just see them as they are, and I use those labels without a story. They are not my lions. They are lions. They are not my tigers. They are tigers. They are not my bears. They are bears.
The echoes coming through my mind, they tell me, are thoughts. But, but, I notice that they are just like the lions, tigers, and bears! They are not MY thoughts. I have no story for them, so I look at them with curiosity. What do they mean? One thought said: You made a mistake. I wonder: what is a mistake. I have no reference point for this without a story. Since I just arrived I have no story, so, what they tell me are thoughts are meaningless to me. They are a curiosity.
I'm now in the garden of what they call flowers. I can only marvel at them. Look at these things...what a variety of colors and shapes and sizes. They are just there; they are not mine. No ownership for me, and I readily realize it.
Oh, I'm now being flooded by what they call thoughts. I am so curious. Look at that one: what does it say? What does that mean? They are not mine; no stories. I'm accused by someone of something. What does that me? No story for me. No association. Does he have a story? Is he believing something he thinks is true? Curious.
Thanks for this fun exercise.
Another question: I'm new to this. Is there an easy way for me to find this thread when I look for your post tomorrow? When I entered today I had to scroll through a lot of stuff to find our communication.
Peace,
Hancock
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There is a purple bar beneath the banner with a button called view your posts. Click it.
Thanks for so zealously attempting the exercise. I'm happy with the result. When you get the chance, take some time to determine how the small self interferes with this experience of openness. Tell me what you find !
Love,
Kian
Thanks for so zealously attempting the exercise. I'm happy with the result. When you get the chance, take some time to determine how the small self interferes with this experience of openness. Tell me what you find !
Love,
Kian
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When you get the chance, take some time to determine how the small self interferes with this experience of openness. Tell me what you find !
My stories get in the way of my sense of openness. It seems or feels like I was the choice-maker in the past, and the way things worked out is my fault. Then, I look at my present experience and what I am getting feels like the opposite of what I had hoped for. The decisions have been made; I can't go back to change anything. In mind, I worry over what I got myself into, and wonder why I couldn't figure this out before I got myself into this stuff. Sometimes it seems as if things will improve but the experience I am having suck me back in. I get loop back into stories of having made the mistakes, and I spin around until I am down in spirits. I pull myself up and I loop back again and again. I then seem to lose my experience of openness, even though I realize that it cannot be truly lost. It sure feels like it, though.
Hancock
My stories get in the way of my sense of openness. It seems or feels like I was the choice-maker in the past, and the way things worked out is my fault. Then, I look at my present experience and what I am getting feels like the opposite of what I had hoped for. The decisions have been made; I can't go back to change anything. In mind, I worry over what I got myself into, and wonder why I couldn't figure this out before I got myself into this stuff. Sometimes it seems as if things will improve but the experience I am having suck me back in. I get loop back into stories of having made the mistakes, and I spin around until I am down in spirits. I pull myself up and I loop back again and again. I then seem to lose my experience of openness, even though I realize that it cannot be truly lost. It sure feels like it, though.
Hancock
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Hey Hancock,
I am on a camping trip, so i will get back to you tomorrow.
I am on a camping trip, so i will get back to you tomorrow.
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I'll be away from 1/2-1/12 and am not certain about access to the Internet. I'll respond to your posts as possible.
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Okay Hancock,
Would you like to resume our inquiry on the 13th? I'd like you to go enjoy whatever you're doing and not worry too much about checking the internet.
Kian
Would you like to resume our inquiry on the 13th? I'd like you to go enjoy whatever you're doing and not worry too much about checking the internet.
Kian
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I'll respond as possible. Here is where I am: I can agree outright that there is no self per se. The body is empty of a separate entity call a self. The self is a collection of thoughts via memories made from past experiences and conditioning. if the conditioning is good then one might have a good experience in life. If the conditioning is filled with trauma and bad choices then one might have a not so good life. Where does a person go when his conditioning was not so good, and his choices were not so wise? I am in the latter category. I'm on a treadmill with thoughts and feelings that do not support me, and i can't seem to get off. Yes, I have my momentary breakthroughs, but, for the most part, I struggle in my life. I don't know what i'm missing.
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It's fine to believe in no self. It's no different than believing in God or Bigfoot. But you need to look for yourself and see if there is a separate entity called Hancock somehow wedged between the world and your body/mind. Be honest with yourself. If you continue to see Hancock, you're still hallucinating! Simple as that. But if you're hallucinating and claim you're not hallucinating, that's a double hallucination! So just be honest about what you see. Where is Hancock?
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I'm obviously doing this incorrectly. How do I do it right?
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Hi Hancock, i'm very sorry for what happened with Kian, he's not guiding anymore.
I would love to be your guide. Are you still looking up to doing this?
Sandra
I would love to be your guide. Are you still looking up to doing this?
Sandra
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I'm just getting back to this. I'm willing, but be aware this might be challenging. This "me" still thinks the past is real, and, like a disease, keeps going back to it. This search could be taxing; that's why I'm asking if you are up to this. I'll check back and see if you replied.
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