The Gate

LU is focused guiding for seeing there is no real, inherent 'self' - what do you understand by this?
I am in the middle of finding out. I realized my personality was a mask instead of defense mechanisms and it’s currently falling apart and I need help navigating this. Like I know that I am not this person, but I have not quite understood who I really am.

What are you looking for at LU?
Meeting people who understand what I’m going through maybe someone else has experienced this because at the moment it feels cold and lonely and I would love to have someone to talk to. It is not easy to find someone who can see through evolution of the self that this is what I’m hoping to find here.

What do you expect from a guided conversation?
Someone who won’t let me escape into intellectualizing this, and who lovingly points me to the truth. Maybe someone who is already experienced this and can guide me because I think I need help with this.

What is your experience in terms of spiritual practices, seeking and inquiry?
I have spent many years on spiritual practices and seeking, but this time it feels different this time it feels like something is happening to me

On a scale from 1 to 10, how willing are you to question any currently held beliefs about 'self? 10

My name is Stacy and I can be your guide, if you would like.

One thing that is helpful is to come to this forum
& post every day. Sometimes the site goes down. It will be back. Just come back later.

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1. Post at least once a day, or every second day. If you need more time, or are unable to post for several days, just write a quick post on your thread to let me know please.

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3. This exploration is based on actual experience (AE) - smell, taste, sound, sensation, color and observed thoughts. Long-winded analytical and philosophical answers are best avoided and may even hinder progress. This is not a self-improvement process. There is no ‘self’ to improve.

4. Put aside all other teachings, philosophies, rituals, practices, books/reading and so on for the remainder of this investigation. Really put all your effort and attention in to seeing this reality, as it is. If you have a daily meditation practice, it is fine to continue that but is not necessary for this exploration.

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To begin with, so that we both become aware of what your expectations are about this exploration. In your own words (not from actual experience, but just honest answers), could you please answer the 4 following questions:

How will life change?
How will you change?
What will be different?
What is missing?

Are you willing to question these thoughts of "cold & lonely?"

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What would you like for me to call you? What time zone are you in, please?


Loving,

Do you still want to be guided here? Have you ghosted the thread?

HI Stacy. Yes i am still interested. thanks for your reply. I caught a terrible virus and still feel sick. Can I respond on the weekend! i am looking forward to this!
thank you!

Yes, yes. Get well & reply when you can.

Loving

Hey Stacy,
I read the disclaimer and the faq
i am doing my best to respond correctly and to use the forum properly. i hope the quotes function works

sorry i am so late, i had an accident and since then i am so tired and exhausted. just to make sure i will check in every second day? is this how it works?

thanks for helping me

How will life change?

i think life will continue as normal, just without the mental narrative. the mental chatter is causing all problems, like a fog that does not let me enjoy life. life continues just the fog and chatter lifts and i can see life for what it really is

How will you change?

i feel who i take myself to be is just a story, habits, defense mechanisms...and all managed by a voice in my head. i want to be free of it. and just enjoy being. i will not take life so seriously anymore, enjoy being present, be at peace with what is. enjoy life without the mental narrative

what will be different?

]everything and nothing. life does not need to be different, i just need to stop overlaying my assumptions and beliefs

What is missing?

nothing. except my belief there is


yes, i am willing to challenge the loneliness and coldness thoughts.

i am in central europe, vienna austria.
we use central european time.

with gratitude
Mathias

Hi Mathias

Just do the best you can.

Your expectations are mostly reasonable. Clarity may come & go as you find untrue beliefs to be questioned.


Now what comes up when reading that there is no separate self, never has been, and never will be? That the whole thing was a made up story that we believed.


Loving,

Are you still here?

The site was having trouble for a couple of days but I warned you that would happen. Just come back. It always will.

Loving,