Drifting wood

[Paloma60]

hi dear Stacy,

I'm back in Hamburg to stay with the kids and in few days to London

here some sharing about butt chair:

First of all I want to share that the sensation itself is available inevitably and choicelessly, no effort is needed and as much as I look there is no way to split the sensation that keeps flowing, to find a border that divided the subject feeling from the object felt.

So no split possible and so only feeling, an inevitably unstoppable flow of feelings/sensing.

Also I see the constant fabbrication of an image, for example there image of the body and parts of the body and an image of the location and yet image so imagination.

much love

[Anastacia42]

Good. And how does that FEEL?

Loving,

[Paloma60]

Dear Stacy,

good morning here in Hamburg is 9am and I'm with my kids and in few days to London

here is your last question

Good. And how does that FEEL?

I have to say when I read this ... it felt so strongly the point,
like is not a logical understanding but rather how is the experience to see or not see what is believed to be in a certain way?

so I gave attention and it feels relaxing, refreshing like a break after a long activity

to see that each and any sensation, which is available efforlessly and choicelessly, is no possible to split, is not possible to get the crossing line, between the apparently two sides, is like fresh air and also it feels like a relaxing grounding in which it feels no effort of any kind

thanks for this question which I think surprised me, landed somewhere
much love
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

Good, Pasquale, and does it feel open & expansive like the truth pointer above?

Whereas calling anything a "self" feels closed, tight & contracted? Like a lie?

Loving

[Paloma60]

Hi dear Stacy,

here your questions

does it feel open & expansive like the truth pointer above?

please help me to get right what you're referring to, because is not clear

Whereas calling anything a "self" feels closed, tight & contracted? Like a lie?
because I was locked out of my house wiht no cellphone and no computer it was really interesting I have been sitting in the garden for almost five hours and I was looking as much precise possible and I saw and more precisely felt strong contraction as self in the upper back and shoulders and the jaws and the chest

I'm keep looking which seem to be the most heatlhy thing to be engaged

much love
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

Hi Pasquale,

I'm not sure what is not clear.

Do you remember how to tell truth from lie?

Here is the link to where we did that:

viewtopic.php?t=9561&start=15#p391644

When you notice no separation between your butt & the chair that is true. So, it feels

it feels relaxing, refreshing like a break after a long activity

When you think about "self " it feels

strong contraction as self in the upper back and shoulders and the jaws and the chest

Right?

Loving,

[Paloma60]

Dear Stacy,

thanks a lot for answering the way you did,
I'm glade I asked you what are you referring to, because the link you gave me (viewtopic.php?t=9561&start=15#p391644) was so clear and I got the point.

here below I'm copying and pasting something from the link you sent me, you wrote me and that gave me a lot of clarity:

"The story of a separate "self" is a lie. This is the lie you came here to see through. This brings the body Sensation that accompanies lying. Therefore, it is helpful to notice the body Sensation of lying as one of the tools for finding the truth of no self.

this is really important at this moment, or at least it feels it is.

I feel, I am naturally shifting towards feeling, sensing and dropping thinking and be engaged in the narration, so thanks a lot for this.

so back to your previous questions:

does it feel open & expansive like the truth pointer above?

yes it has the quality of refreshing and expansive feling

Whereas calling anything a "self" feels closed, tight & contracted? Like a lie?

like I said before a very strong contraction in the chest and the upper back, shoulders and the jaws.

Thanks a lot Stacy

I'm keep looking I wanna continue with this

have a great day
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

Excellent Glad that was clear.

Can you see yet that there's no separate "self?"

Loving,

[Anastacia42]

Are you still there?

[Paloma60]

Dear Stacy,
sorry to be out of communication
I'm in London and when I'm here i pack the days with as many meetings as I can
I'll be going back to Hamburg to see my kids on Thursday.

I'm still looking and with the question: what is that should need to happen before a revelation arises of the fact that there is no self?

At the moment the feeling seem to be like I'm assuming logically that because is clear i don't find the self, then it doesn't exist and this is clearly not the point. so I' m keep looking which seem to be the healthy way to proceed.

much love
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

Looking is the best thing to do

Logic & thinking don't work here.

We're watching for a felt sense of a shift in your perception. It's an experience, not a thought & likely to sneak up on you when you're relaxed.

Loving,

[Paloma60]

hi dear Stacy,

sorry for not being in communication, in the way I would love to be, meaning daily and the point being is that I am travelling through this situation of separating from my wife and this needs time, (even though I never stop the inquiry and yet seem to be difficult to be in communication) so if this is fine with you, I would like to ask you to close this conversation here and please let me know, if I have the chance to open up this conversation later or not.

many thanks

with gratitude
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

Yes. Pasquale. When you're ready just reply here.

I hope all goes well.

Much love,

[Paloma60]

Dear Stacy, thanks a lot,
it means a lot to keep this link with you, alive.
with gratitude
Pasquale

[Anastacia42]

You're quite well welcome.