The Gate

Hi Lee, that is excellent. I knew those would annoy you, but it is what came up and wasn't too terribly rude, so post I did. Very glad it helped.

Your replies will be shared with other guides, who may have questions. Watch this space.

Much love,

Lee, we just realized you didn't a seer Questions 5.

Could you please do that?

Also another guide says,"it should be clear 24/7 there's no self, even when selling happens." Is that the case?

Thank you

Lee, we just realized you didn't answer Questions 5.

Could you please do that?

Also another guide says,"it should be clear 24/7 there's no self, even when selfing happens." Is that the case?

Thank you

Lee, we just realized you didn't answer Questions 5.

Could you please do that?

Sorry about that ... I'll get to it later today.

Also another guide says,"it should be clear 24/7 there's no self, even when selfing happens." Is that the case?

Thank you

We never really talked about "selfing" much, I have a pretty good idea of what it is but can you define it so I can address the other guide's concern?

peace.....

Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Decision is something that just happens. More and more I'm noticing that things I seemingly "decide" to do, get up off a chair and engage in a different activity, what I'm going to eat, when I speak up about something, all just happen and I can see it happening without a "me" involved. In a way, it happens without me noticing it at all but when I choose to notice it ... "Hey, I didn't even think about getting up off the chair..." I can see how the self was not involved in the decision.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Intention is like decision and seems to just happen.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Free will is a little complicated in a way. I don't like to even think about free will because it can be so complicated. it can get into topics like God or a higher power or even societal things like egotistical actions of world leaders and so on. I am letting go of free will even as a topic to discuss. I can sit in between all the things going on and let go of my free will and watch what happens. At times it doesn't seem possible but it's easier than living with thinking I'm the guy making stuff happen. I don't need that in my life right now.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Choice is kinda like decision and intention. It may seem like I'm making a choice, but without any decision or intention involved, choice is practically non-existent in the sequence of operations in how things happen.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

Control in this context is kinda like decision, intention, choice ... it doesn't seem to play a part in the sequence of events that happen as I experience them. I wouldn't use expressions like "out of control" because that even implies there is some self that is experiencing things not in control. There is no doer.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

This could be a complicated question as it's so open-ended but within this context it's not that complicated. Things just happen. I don't know how they do. I don't think as much about how they do because there is no "I" in the equation so to speak. I was writing last night somewhere that "reality is whatever is experienced by whatever experiences."

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

This kinda goes back to who or what is "you" in this question. If there is no "me" then "I" am not responsible. There's still practical responsibilities as a human being in a society. I pay bills. I care for family members. But even the actions that are taken to do those things are happening in a way without choice, decision or intention by an "I" that is in control. There is no "I"

Yes. Good.

"Selfing" is believing the illusions again. It happens witness you have unquestioned untrue beliefs.

Describe free will & give examples from experience:
« I am letting go of free will even as a topic to discuss. I can sit in between all the things going on and let go of my free will and watch what happens. At times it doesn't seem possible but it's easier than living with thinking I'm the guy making stuff happen. I don't need that in my life right now. »

Question: please clarify on the above: Who or what is choosing to let go of free will? Referring back to the exercise of truth or lie, please can you clarify ‘easier’ ?

Describe free will & give examples from experience:
« I am letting go of free will even as a topic to discuss. I can sit in between all the things going on and let go of my free will and watch what happens. At times it doesn't seem possible but it's easier than living with thinking I'm the guy making stuff happen. I don't need that in my life right now. »

Question: please clarify on the above: Who or what is choosing to let go of free will? Referring back to the exercise of truth or lie, please can you clarify ‘easier’ ?

There is nothing choosing. Free will is just happening. There is nothing choosing free will so in a way it's letting go but letting go implies there was something that was at one time holding on and there isn't anything that was ever holding on. It's a little tricky with language describing this. "Easier" just means there's nothing to pay attention to. No thought.

Make sense?

Pretty much. Let's see what the guide who asked says.

Okay, those are good.

Now someone is asking:

The following strikes me as a problematic statement in final answers. "I don't need that in my life right now."

Can we ask him to explain it and see which way he goes with it?

Thank you

I was debating putting that comment in. Look free will like decisions, intention, choices doesn’t matter when there’s no self. But it’s a different term and so I was responding a little differently here. My comment sounds like I am back in selfing maybe and thinking I have this “life right now” that I need to contend with. I don’t. I’m free of free will.

All good!

Please attend some of our support groups to help sort out what is true.

We have a couple of support groups that are meeting via teleconference and I'll give you the information on that.

There are 3 meetings.

Vince Shubert runs one on the weekends. Write to vinceschubert@gmail.com for the link & schedule.

Luchana & Lubo run one on Thursdays. Write to Luchana at luchanauzunova@gmail.com

Ilona holds a monthly meeting. Write admin@ilonaciunaite.com for that link & schedule

Loving

I passed with flying colors! Yay!! I had a feeling that answer would suffice but interesting how other Guides poke around and query. Yes, you gave me the contact info for the other groups before and I may look into it. If I have some other observations or thoughts I may PM you or post in here. Thanks for walking me through this. I actually think I'll refer back to it to review and maybe do some of the exercises again. Good job!

peace......

That all sounds good.

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