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[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

The feeling does come by itself indeed, without a doubt .

I am aware that you like to work with guilt and shame, but

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I don’t experience [quote]“guilt”

[/quote], I experience

“shame”

as a result of an unskilful action of body, speech or mind,

When I said

"when the idea arises it also arises the separation"

I was describing separation from the wholeness of being/existing with everything: the grasping into "self" . Once embodying "myself" the "thought" of shame, -not guilt please-, arises as a result of that unskilful action. And the thought has a

"first person voice"

:

"I am"

.

And, Oh yes! it feels such relief to see that there is no one that has caused anything thus no shame to experience, I see that with joy! the question is:

On seeing it: Will the old protective tendency cease at once, or will it keep coming up in a mechanical way even though there is no one to protect?

Thanks

Victoria

[Dhvictoria]

I don't know what happened. I received an email with the message I had just sent...

[Lubo]

Hi dear Victoria,
Thanks for the reply.
about quote function - put in quotes my question and write under it your reply. Notice the way I quote your replay

I understand that you don't experience guilt, thanks for letting me know

And, Oh yes! it feels such relief to see that there is no one that has caused anything thus no shame to experience, I see that with joy!

What about separation? is there such thing?

The feeling does come by itself indeed, without a doubt .

Wonderful.

Will the old protective tendency cease at once, or will it keep coming up in a mechanical way even though there is no one to protect?

Let's see why this is coming. Let's memory brings an image of situation which triggers this reaction
Then connect with the feeling that arises
and ask the feeling "what are you protecting me from, what shouldn't happen, what shouldn't I feel? "

Love
Lubo

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

What about separation? is there such thing?

Let's see why this is coming. Let's memory brings an image of situation which triggers this reaction
Then connect with the feeling that arises
and ask the feeling "what are you protecting me from, what shouldn't happen, what shouldn't I feel? "

I bring to memory a situation, there is some heat in the stomach, and not much more, only the ghost of resentment, but there is no feeling. My body feels warm and tingly with joy, wide and deep, boundaries have softened.

There is nothing or no one to ask the question about protection, just joy, nothing/no one that should or shouldn’t happen, nothing or no one that should or should’t feel, just joy.

All the time there is no separation but everything arising together and expanding.

Thanks

Victoria

[Lubo]

Wow,
Wonderful!
Dear Victoria,

All the time there is no separation but everything arising together and expanding.

This is amazing. Now invitation is to notice is there experience which is wrong?
Notice right now what is here,
notice everything,
including anger and erotic energy

Love
Lubo

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

Now invitation is to notice is there experience which is wrong?
Notice right now what is here,
notice everything,
including anger and erotic energy.

There is no wrong or negative energy, no feelings of anger or erotic energy, there only peace.

Thanks

Victoria

[Lubo]

beautiful.

Notice every energy that arises, every experience, does it not come from love and peace?

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

Notice every energy that arises, every experience, does it not come from love and peace?

Life flows in the body and all around, suddenly lots of unexpected things arose. I felt present, undisturbed, even when a hint of anxiety arose in the body it passed soon and peace got restored. I feel an indescribable feeling of inner peace, I am not sure if it is love.

The, Is this relevant?:

I have been noticing that I am forgetting things that I never used to and remembering others I never used to remember, like a switch is turned off or on? it’s quite funny!

With gratitude

Victoria

[Lubo]

Life flows in the body and all around, suddenly lots of unexpected things arose. I felt present, undisturbed, even when a hint of anxiety arose in the body it passed soon and peace got restored. I feel an indescribable feeling of inner peace, I am not sure if it is love.

The, Is this relevant?:

Wonderful. Yes life flows as the body and as everything.
Yes you are this present and undisturbed peace. Some call it love.
This is absolutely relevant. There is not a separate self doesn't mean that there is nothing.
Nothice is there a separation? from what? :)

I have been noticing that I am forgetting things that I never used to and remembering others I never used to remember, like a switch is turned off or on? it’s quite funny!

Yes, :) mind doesn't know what to do now, because there is nothing necessary to be done. You can rest here.

I am so happy for you.
Much love
Lubo

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

Many thanks, I keep feeling so quiet and connected.

Notice is there a separation? from what?

:)

There is no separation from anything, everything around is living or dying together, we depend on each other very tightly.

With gratitude

Victoria

[Lubo]

wow, guru :)
Yes, the wholeness apear as every one exactly in this very moment

Ok. let's see how the realisation will unfold. Share with here, from time to time, what is going on.
I am here for you.

Much love
Lubo

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

I feel equanimous and quiet.

But for a second I had a ghostly feeling of betraying “my self” with this enquiry, I noticed it was “I’ wanting to exist!

With gratitude

Victoria

[Lubo]

But for a second I had a ghostly feeling of betraying “my self” with this enquiry, I noticed it was “I’ wanting to exist!

mm, wonderful that you can see this. Be very careful with it. Connect and Ask it "You exist in me, I appear as you, you cannot rule life anymore, now I will take care about you. What you want most?"
And notice the answer.

Love
Lubo

[Dhvictoria]

Hello Lubo,

 

Connect and Ask it "You exist in me, I appear as you, you cannot rule life anymore, now I will take care about you. What you want most?"
And notice the answer.

When I read your advise, my response was; “ have to love it”!, I have to love every bit around this existence, and it felt so well, all is together now.

With gratitude

Victoria

[Lubo]

wow, Wonderful.

I have to love every bit around this existence

Yes you are the whole again when notice that everything is loved.

Love
l.