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Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:32 pm
by Anastacia42
Good morning, Adi,
Direct experience with the senses makes me feel free.
This is good! It may never be 24/7. There will always be times we identify as a "self," even thought we know better.

Lather, rinse, repeat. You know?
I still have faith in a “me”
Be careful not to defend seeing the illusion of a self. This illusion you are defending - can you find it anywhere outside of the content of thought? Check that carefully.

Can you See, Hear, Feel, Smell or Taste this supposed "self?"

I don't care what "faith" you have. The word, "faith," itself tells me it's made up. Can you see that?

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 6:37 pm
by Adi
Hi Stacy
This illusion you are defending - can you find it anywhere outside of the content of thought? Check that carefully.
I cannot, no. As I wrote, it is not enough yet, but one day I hope it will dawn on me and will be.

Can you See, Hear, Feel, Smell or Taste this supposed "self?"
I cannot, no.
I don't care what "faith" you have. The word, "faith," itself tells me it's made up. Can you see that?
I can. Yes.

Thank you
Adi

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2022 7:40 pm
by Anastacia42
So, only fear or expectations can prevent SEEING. That's why those are the first questions asked.

You must be very relaxed in THIS MOMENT. A

Please look for fear or expectations & say what is found.

Here is Ilona's video on fears:

https://youtu.be/jKX1llYtlKE

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:21 pm
by Adi
Please look for fear or expectations & say what is found.
They’re both in thought and not now. When I don’t think I am not afraid or hoping.
Thank you
Adi

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 8:53 pm
by Anastacia42
Yes, good.

Practice being NOW & not believing your thinking.

The guided DropBox meditations can help you to practice this.

If you need to question a thought, use The Work of Byron Katie.

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 2:53 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi Adi,

Every day, please. I can't chase you.

No posts since Thursday. What's happening?

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 3:18 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi everyone.

Starting on 15th of October for 5 weeks I will post a new video of guiding sessions we had with Jim.
Here is a link to the first one.

https://youtu.be/gb6FwZ6PlI4

Liberation Unleashed Direct Pointing - The Gateless Gate

Ilona

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:29 pm
by Adi
No posts since Thursday. What's happening?
Hi Stacy,
Sorry. Don’t mean for you to chase but I have nothing to write. What should I do in that case?
Thank you
Adi

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Sun Oct 16, 2022 8:53 pm
by Anastacia42
Are you practicing?

Write what you practiced, then what happens, even if it's the same thing over & over.


If you're practicing, *something* is happening.

Write only Direct Experience.
No thinking needs to be written.

Are you going to the meetings?

Write what happens in the meetings - what is FELT & SEEN. I hope you're taking advantage of those.

Please start watching this. There will be 5. A new one each Saturday.

https://youtu.be/gb6FwZ6PlI4


Use all of the resources.

What else is happening with your reading of gateless gate crashers?

There should be a lot to write. There are images, colors, sounds, taste and smell all around you.

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 4:14 pm
by Adi
Hi Stacy,
Ok. Thanks for clarifying.
Are you practicing?
I do.
Write what you practiced, then what happens, even if it's the same thing over & over.
I am doing the DE senses and "trying to find" my "I".
Yea, as long as I do not think, I cannot locate an actual "I" .
Re DE - While I walk, washing up ect., and narrow it to a this moment and a sense then there is only seeing, smelling, feeling, hearing.
What else is happening with your reading of gateless gate crashers?
As I wrote before it mainly words, more of the same I already know in my mind. Although not everything. Like when I ask myself the questions pointed to the seekers in it, in order to embody it or fully see it, like " What is real" for instance. I don't know, I know nothing is real in my mind, but if I check it I get lost because I hear a bird. Is the sound real? Only when I hear it? Is it at all? Again, I am not sure how to refer to it really.
Are you going to the meetings?
I don't. I don't want to. I have attended a lot of nonduality events, read books etc. it's more words for me. I prefer not involving myself in more of other's experiences as a watcher or a listener, but rather focus on my own practice and what I already do, which is Zazen every morning, the Gatecrashers, this forum, practices you gave me and life in general.
Please start watching this. There will be 5. A new one each Saturday.
https://youtu.be/gb6FwZ6PlI4
Thank you. I'll watch it.

Much love
Adi

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Mon Oct 17, 2022 6:44 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi Adi,
Are you going to the meetings?
I don't. I don't want to. I have attended a lot of nonduality events, read books etc. it's more words for me. I prefer not involving myself in more of other's experiences as a watcher or a listener, but rather focus on my own practice and what I already do, which is Zazen every morning, the Gatecrashers, this forum, practices you gave me and life in general.
Okay. One of my clients recently had his breakthrough in part because of going to a meeting with Ilona and another with Vince. You are invited to ask your own questions, be guided and be an active participant. Up to you.
https://youtu.be/gb6FwZ6PlI4
Thank you. I'll watch it.
Good. This is a session with a client being guided who SAW no self by the end of it. I have only seen the first one.
as long as I do not think, I cannot locate an actual "I"
Correct. "I" is nothing but a made-up thought story. Good.
narrow it to a this moment and a sense then there is only seeing, smelling, feeling, hearing.
Good. That will eventually show you there is no self.

"Enlightenment is an accident. Meditation makes us accident prone."
~ Sunryu Suzuki
I hear a bird. Is the sound real? Only when I hear it? Is it at all? Again, I am not sure how to refer to it really.
Good. Start there.

In the moment of hearing can you find the place where there is nothing but hearing? Just a happening. Here is a pointer for finding this:

Take a Direct Look at Sounds & Hearing.

Hearing Exercise

Find somewhere quiet to sit. Rest for a moment and listen to the sounds in the room where you are, or sounds from outside. Whatever it is, I'll just refer to it as 'what can be heard'.

1) In 'hearing' can anything be found other than 'what can be heard'?

2) Can what is doing the hearing be found? Or is there only 'what can be heard'?

3) An 'I'? a 'body'? a 'person'? a brain? a pair of ears?

Can these be found doing the hearing? Or is there just 'what can be heard'?

What do you find?

Can an INHERENT HEARER be found? Would anything that is suggested as the hearer, be anything other than a concept/idea/thought?


Have fun with this.

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:16 pm
by Adi
Hi Stacy,
Thanks very much.
Good. This is a session with a client being guided who SAW no self by the end of it. I have only seen the first one.
I watched it and will look for the others. Thanks for recommending.
Good. That will eventually show you there is no self.
I was walking this morning while doing the DE senses exercise and the senses felt vivid. Not sure if that has to do with anything, maybe my focus on them without the mind makes them stand out more to me. It just felt different. More "alive".
1) In 'hearing' can anything be found other than 'what can be heard'?
No. There is only hearing
2) Can what is doing the hearing be found? Or is there only 'what can be heard'?
No. It cannot be found.
3) An 'I'? a 'body'? a 'person'? a brain? a pair of ears?
No. None of those.
Can these be found doing the hearing? Or is there just 'what can be heard'?
What do you find?
No, I could not find any of those.
Can an INHERENT HEARER be found? Would anything that is suggested as the hearer, be anything other than a concept/idea/thought?
No hearer, only hearing. Hearer will be an idea, a thought. Yes.
"Thunder & Lightening: Cracking Open the Writer's Craft"
I know it's a bit out of subject but I don't get this quote other than the fact perhaps, that creativity comes from "the open" and not from the person (?)
Thank you.

Much love
Adi

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:25 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi,
I was walking this morning while doing the DE senses exercise and the senses felt vivid. Not sure if that has to do with anything, maybe my focus on them without the mind makes them stand out more to me. It just felt different. More "alive".
That's it! That's how it FEELS to SEE! Do more of that. It's working!

Natalie Goldberg wrote about how to write. She's most famous for "Writing Down the Bones." Here she is comparing writing practice to the kinds of effort we do here to see no self. And she's warning that it can be challenging and mind bending. It can torn your world upside down. Everything must be reevaluated in light of this truth that there's no self.

Have you read Jed Mckenna? He talks about walking up in a similar way in "Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damndest Thing." Feel free to read that, if you like.

Notice how much more I can give you when you write here?

Loving,

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:26 pm
by Anastacia42
"turn" and "Waking"

Typos, sorry.

Re: Realisation please. Thank you

Posted: Tue Oct 18, 2022 2:59 pm
by Adi
Hi,
Natalie Goldberg wrote about how to write. She's most famous for "Writing Down the Bones." Here she is comparing writing practice to the kinds of effort we do here to see no self. And she's warning that it can be challenging and mind bending. It can torn your world upside down. Everything must be reevaluated in light of this truth that there's no self.
Thank you. I googled & read a bit about her now. I’ve added this book to my reading list.
Have you read Jed Mckenna? He talks about walking up in a similar way in "Spiritual Enlightenment: The Damndest Thing." Feel free to read that, if you like.
I have and enjoyed his books. Thanks
Notice how much more I can give you when you write here?
True. Thanks so much
Adi