I'm not separate

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:45 am

Hi,
there are complicated system of thoughts.
Isn't it just another thought?
Are you REALLY see a complicated system of thoughts?


Let's clean a little bit here:

So, there is a charcter and thoughts but is there a me who is the character ?

Who cares what thoughts will explain to the character if there is no you?

The same like the thoughts are judging the weather.

Is there something more than experience of character and experience of thoughts (judging the character)?

Is there a self, responsabile for all this?


Look very carefull.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Tue Apr 12, 2022 12:57 pm

Hello mam.
Good day.
Q-Isn't it just another thought?
Are you REALLY see a complicated system of thoughts?
A- what I mean that , thoughts are spontaneous but too many thoughts arising,some are even contradictory , regarding everything,every form,every situation, attached with feelings and emotions,all things are labelled by thoughts,all emotions, feelings are labelled by thoughts.character is confused by thoughts.too much flow of thoughts are exausting, makes a person, peace less.
What i m telling are also thoughts,but there is no other way.
Q-, so there is a charcter and thoughts but is there a me who is the character ?
A- yeah character is sometimes mistaken for me,but character is not me, character is imaginary.
Q-Who cares what thoughts will explain to the character if there is no you?
A- yes happening will continue.
Q-The same like the thoughts are judging the weather.

Is there something more than experience of character and experience of thoughts (judging the character)?

Is there a self, responsabile for all this?
A- thoughts by its past experience and past knowledge judge the weather,and make plans for protection (like if weather suggest heavy rain or cyclone- character start preparing for coming problems.
There is nothing more than experience of character and thoughts, judging the character or thought is another thought.
No "self" is responsible for this.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 13, 2022 7:25 am

Hi,
Wonderful
A- thoughts by its past experience and past knowledge judge the weather,and make plans for protection (like if weather suggest heavy rain or cyclone- character start preparing for coming problems.
There is nothing more than experience of character and thoughts, judging the character or thought is another thought.
Yes, exactly. The things are happening in this way. Notice at Direct Experience (DE) right now - Is there something that is not happening by itself is there something that is self?

Do it until there is no doubt how things are.
Until you can say with 100 % certainty to the whole word that there is no-small entity IN the head which is producing or know thoughts or some bugs (me) in the body who is moving the body.
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Apr 16, 2022 8:16 am

Hello mam.
Q-is there something that is not happening by itself is there something that is self?
A- whene baby is born, there is only knowingness - seeing, listening,tasting,feelings like hunger and pain.these continue life long.there is no "i m ness".no seprate things,later on baby knows different things,
This knowingness has no size, location, nothing behind it ,no self or me behind it, knowingness just happens , spontaneously.identification with body-mind creates illusion of me.
Don't know but sometimes,shift may happen spontaneously.
Sometimes feel that knowingness or looking is personal ,(related to body-mind) this identification need to break.
( This is again a thought).

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Sun Apr 17, 2022 6:23 am

Hi,

Sometimes feel that knowingness or looking is personal ,(related to body-mind) this identification need to break.
( This is again a thought).
Who or what needs to break?
How the need is experienced exactly?



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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sun Apr 17, 2022 7:09 am

Hello mam.
Q-Who or what needs to break?
How the need is experienced exactly?
A-Understanding is-- that "looking" if identify with individual mind-body,that's creates illusion of me and sepration.
But if it's seen that looking is impersonal than me and sepration (illusion) fall away.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Mon Apr 18, 2022 6:25 am

Hi,

Is there a me, a self who is attached or sticked to the story?
Or it is IN the story?
Or is there a story only?
Find this separate me.
What is it made of?
What colour, shape or phorm has?
How does it taste?

Without a story of me experiencing the world is it possible to find separation?



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Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Mon Apr 18, 2022 12:11 pm

Hi .
Q-Is there a me, a self who is attached or sticked to the story?
Or it is IN the story?
Or is there a story only?
Find this separate me.
What is it made of?
What colour, shape or phorm has?
How does it taste?
A- person or character is story created by thoughts.
"Me" is not attached or sticked to it.
* Me is not in story
* There is only story
Seprate me can't be found.
Q- Without a story of me experiencing the world is it possible to find separation?
A- yes if there is no subject (me) ,there is no sepration.only experience without experiencer.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Tue Apr 19, 2022 7:19 am

Hi,
Thanks for the replay
A- yes if there is no subject (me) ,there is no sepration.only experience without experiencer.
This sounds like a logical conclusion.
What if there is no different subjects but only a subject?
Here it is an exersice. Dive deep on it.

Let's use imagination and put a water-mark "I" on the body - check is it easy?. notice that there is no need for thoughts to repeat "I, I, I" but the watermark is there without thoights to point on - it's constant.
Then allow the imagination to put water-mark "I" on everything, wall, sky, carpet, sound, sensations, thoughts.
And when everything have an "I" notice are there diferent, separate "I"s, or there is only one I ?

Do this for a whole day 10 or more times until there is no doubt what is seen.

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Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Apr 20, 2022 7:16 am

Hello mam
Q-What if there is no different subjects but only a subject?
A- Subject, object is duality.if there is only subject but no object than its oneness.
It's difficult to imagine "I" on everything,i have tried it,the "I" on every object is same.but again it's imaginations.

Thanks.

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Wed Apr 20, 2022 8:31 am

Q-What if there is no different subjects but only a subject?
A- Subject, object is duality.if there is only subject but no object than its oneness.
Where in the question you saw word "object"?
I understand that you dont read what i am pointg you but imagine different things..
Make exercise again without judging it OK?
Oneness is not imagination, separation is imagined.
Look around everything is "I"
Give the exercise another try..

L.
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Wed Apr 20, 2022 1:10 pm

Hi
Is this"I" means "me"? Or just letter "I"?

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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Thu Apr 21, 2022 7:13 am

Hello.
Sense of "I" is sense of being ness,sense of existence,sense of life,sense of aliveness.
It's knowing- looking - awerness - without a centre.I has to be transcended.whenever there is only looking - it's peace full.serene.
But again There is cofusion regarding "me" and " no me".
Our whole concentration is on looking that there is no me.


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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Luchana » Fri Apr 22, 2022 11:06 am

Hi,

it seems that there is confusion going on.

All right.
Our whole concentration is on looking that there is no me.
And after this whole looking to find a me - did you able to find something somewhere?

Please take a look at the following questions ONE by ONE

Does the sense of me have a location?

Does the sense of me have a shape or a size?

Does the sense of me say or communicate anything?

If the answer is yes, how does the sense do this exactly?

Does the sense of me have any characteristics or attributes?

What is the sense of me ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought?

Take your time, watch like a cat is hunting a mouse.

Much love,
Luchana
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Re: I'm not separate

Postby Asheshjain » Sat Apr 23, 2022 7:58 am

Hello mam
Q-Does the sense of me have a location?
A- no location.
Q-Does the sense of me have a shape or a size?
A- no shape no size
Q-Does the sense of me say or communicate anything
A-No
Q-Does the sense of me have any characteristics or attributes?
A- No
Q-What is the sense of me ‘made of’? An image? Sound? Taste? Smell? Sensation? Thought?
A- actually in sense of me ,there is no me,it's just undescribable sense- of existence.there is no colour,taste, texture,smell.sense is so light and subtule that it's like nothing.

Regards 🙏


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