Hey Allen,
. Great! So did the thought story that supposedly created the sensation (fear) actually create the sensation, or did the sensation just appear, as did the thought, without anyone/anything making the sensation appear?
Nope sensation just appeared and cant create anything and thought appeared and cant create anything.want to LOOK more!
Great! Glad that is clear :)
Can the colour ‘red’ be described?
Can the smell ‘coffee’ be described?
Can the taste ‘banana’ be described?
Can the sensation ‘fear’ be described?
Can the sound ‘wind’ be described?
Can the thought be described?
never.only experience coffee never exactly only taste. banana same as coffee. fear? hmmmm....nope only sensation. wind nope only sound. Each successive example seems like thought story could make a more accurate attempt. hmmmm..... no NO NO they r all AE the rest is thought story no reality other than colorsmelltastesensationsoundthought which is actual and rest nothing
And a thought is appearing that says “each successive example seems like thought story could make a more accurate attempt”!
. So, going back to the label ‘fear’. Can a labels/words or thought affect anything, or is there just thought ABOUT labels/words/thoughts affecting something?
words ,labels ,thoughts cant do or effect anything. what an absolute trip!!! its what?? So label body/allen cant do anything either!!! so what the hell is happening except AE. then no meaning in any of appearance.as it is its own knowing?? All inside out now. more looking.thoughts appearing blahblahblah left with sensationthoughtscolrsoundsmell so many thoughts doing nothing and sensationcolorsmellsound
YES! YES! YES! There is no meaning in any appearance, as it is its own knowing! All appearances are ‘made from’ experience and experience knows itself! THIS is a self-aware dream!
Let’s use gold as an analogy. Gold is still gold no matter what it appears as. It can appear as a ring, a bracelet, cuff links, and a necklace, but gold still knows itself as gold, it doesn’t know itself as a ring, or bracelet and so on. The ‘form’ that the gold takes does not change the gold in any way, it will always remain as gold and know itself as gold!
Okay, I am going to throw a spanner in the works as I have gone back ‘pre-fear’ investigation and responded to some of the answers in your post as I felt that they needed a response. So some of this will sound repetitive.
. Can anyone/anything be found in AE that is responsible for choosing or deciding anything? If there is no thinker of thought and thought just appears…and there such a thing as free will and is there anyone/anything that desires/wants/needs free will?
No not in AE just appearances. thoughts cant do anything not even point. that would be another thought appearing as the thought pointing.so....what the hell is happening then. sound is itself, sensation is just appearing, taste, color. No appearance in AE does anything except appear. hmmm....cant be. yet a thought appears as "something is answering these questions" and that is just another thought appearing. It never never stops aaahhhgggg!!
Yes, there is a knowing AS soundsensationtastesmellcoloursound, it’s just that it isn’t known by a person/thing/entity. In actual experience "knowing" is just another word for "known". Is "knowing" separate from what is “known", or are they one and the same experience? Could you find a dividing line to where a thought stops and the knowing of it begins? Or where a sound stops and a thought begins and so on? So there is no “knowing” and “known”, there is only knowingknown and the knowingknown (aka experience) is self-aware.
A known (soundsmelltastesoundcolourthought) can't know and knowing can't be a known
Known IS knowing, Knowing IS known. Not two.
No there is nothing to have free will only a thought appearing with empty claim.
Terrific! Nice LOOKING. Since there is no thinker of thought then there can’t possibly be a doer, thinker, controller, decider, chooser….so there cannot be free will and cannot be anyone or anything that is responsible for what is.
now to this question.so only thought would say that.let me look some more.it cant be known as they are all appearing in AE spaceness.they all appear when they appear all at same time.no line or boundry wait... no difference just AE!!!!!!!Wait even a thought appearing to separate soundtastecolorsensation is part of the whole experience.actually thought cant separate anything cant do anything except appear as thought. WOWWWW!!!!
FANTASTIC LOOKING! It is only an appearing thought that says experience (knowingknown) is divided into different experiences labelled as colour and sound and thought and smell and taste and sensation. There is no ‘AND’. Experience (knowingknown) is indivisible and has never been divided. Coloursensationthoughtsmelltastesound are not appearing as experience…it is the other way round. Experience is appearing AS coloursensationthoughtsmelltastesound and experience is and always has been whole and complete.
How is it known that a sensation, sound, taste, thought, smell and colour are ALL different experiences….only because a thought says so and a thought knows nothing! :) Experience aka knowingknown knows itself AS an appearance labelled as coloursensationthoughtsmelltastesound.
What exactly is it that could be “bored”? Can you find anyone in AE that is “bored” or has “drama”? OR for that matter, can you find anyone that has problems, that is strategising or problem solving! :)
No thought cant do anything there is no one in AE and the thought "i'm missing something" keeps appearing in AE and the thought "is that all there is" and "so unsatisfying" and yet wow thats all thats appearingin AE .all these thoughts appearing and they mean nothing to no one and the thought "whats the point" so thats it then!! Cant even type words as they seem meaningless now
All those thoughts point to a person, that resides in a body and the body/person goes about its business for 60 or more years and then dies and that’s the end. That I find so totally pointless and meaningless and thankfully that is only a thought story! You are not a person and you certainly aren’t a thought either! How could you be either of those…neither a thought labelled as a ‘person’, or thought itself is ‘aware’ (knowing) of/as THIS.
I find it so totally miraculous and astounding is that everything is just appearing, including the stories about objects, people, life, the world etc and yet there is no one/no thing that is making anything happen or making anything appear – it just IS!
Is everything that we have done so far with regards to AE, thought, knowingknown etc clear? Do you have any questions about any of what we have covered so far?
Much love, Kay
xx
Nothing real can be threatened. Nothing unreal exists.
