My mind belives it`s aware?

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:32 pm

Should`nt that p be a b?

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:40 pm

I believe not

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:42 pm

and now I know :) Yes b

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:50 pm

Take away the labels of what you percieve with eyes closed and in the now.
Without labelling there appears to be nothing, no thing to relate to?
Except being, breathing:)
Feeling not so cold: Unity:)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 7:59 pm

Now we really know where we are! Michael completely wrapped up in the believe that he exists.
Yes all my life I have been jack the lad, in control of everything I do, without exception:( A very fair lad though Michael would say/think:)
Can not take orders, will not give orders, except asking the kids to behave and yes dear to the wife;)
The rest though has been me being " I thought" in control, so now you`ve found out what I think I am:) + a very small :(
So you champion sparing partner, what are you going to knock me out with next??
Expecting to be knocked out cold;)Unity;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:18 pm

Knock your self out!

In the first round I asked you if there were anything you were afraid of loosing by seeing no-self, the answer were:
Yes, control of who I am, who I think I am;)
Now make a list of who you are, who you think you are. Don't leave anything out.

Then make a list of what you perceive 'I' to be when you look in direct experience. Don't leave anything out.

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 8:25 pm

Good!

This seems to be direct experiencing.
Without labelling there appears to be nothing, no thing to relate to?
Except being, breathing:)
Feeling not so cold: Unity:)
Now I hope you know what to do when I say LOOK. If you feel you don't let me know, please.
The rest of my comments for this will be saved for another moment.

You did this very good!

Vivi

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 9:41 pm

Now make a list of who you are, who you think you are. Don't leave anything out.
A person, a husband, a father, a son, a brother, a good guy, a friend, a family guy;)
A lot like Homer Simpson, only I`m Mr Burns;~)
Sometimes I believe I am awareness it`s self, but this will only become true once every-single one of us become Unified.Together, as one:
Then make a list of what you perceive 'I' to be when you look in direct experience. Don't leave anything out.
I is the quickest way to verbally identify self to self and others.
I is the one having the experience of what is being experienced.
I copes with what ever arises.
I is simply a reference/label a connector to what is appearing to happen.
I can`t think why I thought I was so important, and I certainly appear to be addicted to the I need, I wish, I know and I am.
Unity is not I but 1.
Feels a little warmer in this tight corner of the ring;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:01 pm

Hi Michael

Glad you feel warmer :)

Now tell me, what is all this, if not labels:
A person, a husband, a father, a son, a brother, a good guy, a friend, a family guy;)
A lot like Homer Simpson, only I`m Mr Burns;~)
Sometimes I believe I am awareness it`s self, but this will only become true once every-single one of us become Unified.Together, as one:

I is the quickest way to verbally identify self to self and others.
I is the one having the experience of what is being experienced.
I copes with what ever arises.
I is simply a reference/label a connector to what is appearing to happen.
None of it describes you totally - right? Not even close, right?

I can`t think why I thought I was so important, and I certainly appear to be addicted to the I need, I wish, I know and I am.
Neither can I
Without labelling there appears to be nothing, no thing to relate to?
Except being, breathing:)
Your own experience....therefore walk around during the day and notice all the automatic labeling.

Keep me informed

Vivi

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:25 pm

Will do my best:) Ouch that hurt:(

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Tue Sep 04, 2012 10:42 pm

I am only warming up!

I know you will.
Sleep well :)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:43 pm

Your own experience....therefore walk around during the day and notice all the automatic labelling.
Words, thoughts are a labelling system.
Thoughts must originate with senses, experiencing them in-order for them to be questioned?
Without I there would be no questioning.
Therefore I, Michael must be awareness being what awareness is being or unfolding in this manner of communication? I will not go quietly;)
Warm up on that;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby dreamer » Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:55 pm

Words, thoughts are a labelling system.
Yes

Thoughts must originate with senses, experiencing them in-order for them to be questioned?
Without I there would be no questioning.
Therefore I, Michael must be awareness being what awareness is being or unfolding in this manner of communication?
Mr. Burns! Pull your self together! NO assumptions/believes/thoughts ONLY DIRECT EXPERIENCE!

What do you have to say about labelling from direct experience. That's all I am interested in, because that is what will bring the knowing you are looking for. LOOK and tell me what you see. Quit believing the thinking it is USELESS!

Or is it so that the believed BS descriped below is preventing you from realizing - simply because you believe that it is not posible for you to see until everyone has seen? Then what the heck are we doing here????
Sometimes I believe I am awareness it`s self, but this will only become true once every-single one of us become Unified.Together, as one:
Warm regards Vivi :)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:12 pm

What do you have to say about labelling from direct experience.
Labelling attaching words together or the other way round, it`s E relevant surely?
Michael appears too not, comprehend the relevance, to remove "I"?
Yet he is amused to see the relevance for it`s entirety, hoping, wishing for unfold~meant of experience;) Plus: what`s wrong with talkin shit?;) Doin what comes natural, @ present;)

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Re: My mind belives it`s aware?

Postby Unity » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:40 pm

That's all I am interested in, because that is what will bring the knowing you are looking for.
I wish to know, this is you is on about;)
Yet I also wish to understand where on earth, this is, is happening;)
Quit believing the thinking it is USELESS!
Yes, but thinking upon, is as important, than it, which is~nt?
Or is it so that the believed BS descriped below is preventing you from realizing - simply because you believe that it is not posible for you to see until everyone has seen?
BS happens this is not intended, so please excuse me, for I know not what I am, just yet. No one gets left behind;)
Then what the heck are we doing here????
I wonder then, I know, michael wanders, then waves at the elementary eloquence of it all;~))
Unity indeed;)


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