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[user]

Good evening David!

If this part seemed superfluous and imposed. Why holding to it?

I've never asked myself that. I never questioned it. I can see that it makes little sense to impose onto reality. It complicates things.

How would be if you spend a full day without this "I am"?

I will explore this.

How does it feel to be in DE?

It feels open, easy, and clear. At the moment at least. Sitting at home, in silence. Lol! My Grammarly add-on wants me to correct the last sentence, it wants me to add "I am" at the start of it!! :D

Does it require energy or concertation?

Not in this current moment, no.

If you go to a restaurant you want the description of the food or the actual food?

Hahaha! I will regard this as a rhetorical question.

Why keep old to what is not "tasty"?

I can't find a good reason to hold to that.

Why hold to this if it gives you constriction?

I wasn't aware that the use of the word "I" affected me in that way. It's very interesting.
A little off-topic, just for the fun of it. A couple of things that hit me the other day:
Vocally, the word "I" is almost identical to the word lie.
"I", when pronounced, is "aj" in Swedish, which means ouch.

//Tom

[Windaway]

Hello Tom,

If this part seemed superfluous and imposed. Why holding to it?

I've never asked myself that. I never questioned it. I can see that it makes little sense to impose onto reality. It complicates things.

This message is very simple. Look at what is here Directly.
There is no need to superimpose anything on top of it.

How would be if you spend a full day without this "I am"?

I will explore this.

Great!
That is all this guidance is about.
Look, explore, and see.
Let me know what happens!

How does it feel to be in DE?

It feels open, easy, and clear. At the moment at least. Sitting at home, in silence. Lol! My Grammarly add-on wants me to correct the last sentence, it wants me to add "I am" at the start of it!! :D

Why move from openness, easiness, and clarity?

I wasn't aware that the use of the word "I" affected me in that way. It's very interesting.
A little off-topic, just for the fun of it. A couple of things that hit me the other day:
Vocally, the word "I" is almost identical to the word lie.
"I", when pronounced, is "aj" in Swedish, which means ouch.

Yes!
Keep looking, be curious. ^^
Let me know if you find something new

[user]

Good afternoon David!

This message is very simple. Look at what is here Directly.
There is no need to superimpose anything on top of it.

I can see this. Completely unnecessary, it doesn't add to it at all.

Great!
That is all this guidance is about.
Look, explore, and see.
Let me know what happens!

Sure!
At this point, I can say that it seems to come with a sense of ease. Falling into DE, aligning with the acceptance of it.

Why move from openness, easiness, and clarity?

Does not make much sense, no. Why not move into it?

Yes!
Keep looking, be curious. ^^
Let me know if you find something new

Absolutely!

[Windaway]

Hello Tom,

Now that you have more clarity and you can sense this openness.
Can you find a separate entity?

Can you find a "me" or a "Tom"?

[user]

Good afternoon David!

Can you find a separate entity?
Can you find a "me" or a "Tom"?

When I look at my body or look in the mirror there is an inclination of the mind to say that the body is Tom, so there is identification with this thing that seems to be an object (at least in the visual field).
Looking at the other parts of DE there is simply not a Tom there.

//Tom

[Windaway]

Hello Tom,

When I look at my body or look in the mirror there is an inclination of the mind to say that the body is Tom, so there is identification with this thing that seems to be an object (at least in the visual field).
Looking at the other parts of DE there is simply not a Tom there.

Ok so let's investigate the body.

Can you locate precisely where is Tom inside the body?

Is Tom the hole body or just a part of it?

If it is a part only which one?

Be precise.

[user]

Good evening David!

Can you locate precisely where is Tom inside the body?
Is Tom the hole body or just a part of it?
If it is a part only which one?

Tom is the whole body. Looking at it part by part, I couldn't locate a Tom in the body though.
However, I saw that it is just an idea/thought/assumption/belief that Tom is the body.

//Tom

[user]

Good morning David!

However, I saw that it is just an idea/thought/assumption/belief that Tom is the body.

I want to clarify on this,

I can see the thought/assumption that Tom is the body, but I am not saying that is taken to be a lie.
Looking at the body, I can't see that it is something other than me.


//Tom

[Windaway]

I want to clarify on this,

I can see the thought/assumption that Tom is the body, but I am not saying that is taken to be a lie.
Looking at the body, I can't see that it is something other than me.

Please answer each question separately:

Can you find this "Tom" that is the body?

Which part of the body is Tom exactly? The hands? the legs? the toes? the lungs? the hearts?

Tom is the body or does Tom have a body?


Without using the past or memory tell me everything there is to know about Tom.

[user]

Good evening David!

Can you find this "Tom" that is the body?

Not sure if Tom refers to the mental concept of "Tom" or if Tom refers to me, the one being present.
Not that it matters because a mental concept can't be the body anyway.
I can't spot exactly where Tom is, where I am.
The sensory input of the eyes makes it seem like there is a focal point behind them that I assume Tom should be near, but there is nothing there when I look.

Which part of the body is Tom exactly? The hands? the legs? the toes? the lungs? the hearts?

Tom is not any specific part.

Tom is the body or does Tom have a body?

If you put it like that, I would say that Tom HAS a body.

Without using the past or memory tell me everything there is to know about Tom.

Tom is here, and he is aware.

//Tom

[Windaway]

Hello Tom,

Not sure if Tom refers to the mental concept of "Tom" or if Tom refers to me, the one being present.
Not that it matters because a mental concept can't be the body anyway.

Let's explore this.
Here are some questions. Please answer them as you read them. Read them in order, do NOT read the next question until you answer first.

Are you a sound?
Are you a thought?
Are you a sensation?

















The sound of the letter T + O + M makes the sound = TOM.
Do you agree that a TOM is a sound?

I can ask you many questions about TOM. His age, date of birth, place of birth, name of his parents etc...
But do you see that all of the answers that I would get would be about the past?
Everything that comes from the past is thought and thought only.
Do you agree that TOM is a collection of thoughts ABOUT a past?


There is an experience of sensation.
But, as you said Tom seems to HAVE a body, so he is NOT a sensation.
So you will not find a TOM either in the body or in sensation.
Do you agree that thought superimposes a thought of TOM upon a raw sensation?





Are you the sound TOM?
Are you the thought TOM?
Are you the sense of TOM (which is sensation+thoughts)?







We keep talking about TOM as if it were some kind of entity or separate self.
But are you able to find this entity in your direct experience?

[user]

Good morning David!

Are you a sound?

I am not a sound.

Are you a thought?

I am not a thought.

Are you a sensation?

I am not a sensation.

Do you agree that a TOM is a sound?

Yes, I agree. Compared to other sounds, the sound TOM is different. I've been looking into it but can't discern what it is, other than it is something subtle.

But do you see that all of the answers that I would get would be about the past?

I can see that, yes.

Do you agree that TOM is a collection of thoughts ABOUT a past?

Yes, I do agree.

Do you agree that thought superimposes a thought of TOM upon a raw sensation?

Yes, I do agree.

Are you the sound TOM?

I am not the sound.

Are you the thought TOM?

I am not the thought.

Are you the sense of TOM (which is sensation+thoughts)?

I've been looking and I am finding it hard to give a definite answer to this question. What I sense and feel I take personally, like it is mine and part of me. I think that it perhaps is there the crux lies.
...*More looking*.. and:
If I break it down and look at the sensations/feelings in my body part by part it makes it clearer though, that I am not those sensations. I can also see the subtle overlay of the thought/identification. Though, I still find it hard to disidentify when I look at the totality of sensations/feelings. Perhaps it is due to the fact that it is currently, more than usual, heavy and dense.

We keep talking about TOM as if it were some kind of entity or separate self.
But are you able to find this entity in your direct experience?

Not been able to do that. I find sensations/feelings. I perceive thoughts, hear sounds, and see the visual.

//Tom

[Windaway]

Are you the sense of TOM (which is sensation+thoughts)?

I've been looking and I am finding it hard to give a definite answer to this question. What I sense and feel I take personally, like it is mine and part of me. I think that it perhaps is there the crux lies.

Everything IS me.
This sentence above is correct. The confusion arises depending on what you are pointing behind the word "me".

The question is this one:
The word "me" points toward that which is aware of experience. Do you agree?

You agreed that Tom is a collection of thoughts about the past.
Do you see clearly that Tom is a thought?

Is Tom aware of experience?
Is a collection of thoughts aware of experience?


Can a thought be aware of other thoughts?

Is a thought aware of a sensation?

Is a thought aware of a perception?

We keep talking about TOM as if it were some kind of entity or separate self.
But are you able to find this entity in your direct experience?

Not been able to do that. I find sensations/feelings. I perceive thoughts, hear sounds, and see the visual.

Great!
Is Tom the ONE who is aware of experience?
Is what you can't find, aware of experience?

[user]

Good evening David!

The question is this one:
The word "me" points toward that which is aware of experience. Do you agree?

Yes, very much so.

You agreed that Tom is a collection of thoughts about the past.
Do you see clearly that Tom is a thought?

I don´t know if I can see it clearly, but I can see that it is a collection of thoughts.

Is Tom aware of experience?

Not the collection of thoughts, no.

Is a collection of thoughts aware of experience?

Oh. No, not that I am aware of.

Can a thought be aware of other thoughts?

No, that's very unlikely.

Is a thought aware of a sensation?

No, that's also very unlikely.

Is a thought aware of a perception?

No.

Is Tom the ONE who is aware of experience?

Not the concept Tom. There´s still hesitation to answering this question though, to be honest.

Is what you can't find, aware of experience?

I don't know. Probably. If consciousness is what I am looking for, I am looking in the wrong place. I´m looking for it as if it's something I can find/perceive. It's like looking through binoculars, trying to locate the one who is looking.
Perhaps it doesn't have a location at all.

//Tom

[Windaway]

hello Tom,

Is Tom the ONE who is aware of experience?

Not the concept Tom. There´s still hesitation to answering this question though, to be honest.

Thank you for your honesty it is very important.

You seem to hesitate because you don't see clearly the nature of thinking:

You agreed that Tom is a collection of thoughts about the past.
Do you see clearly that Tom is a thought?

I don´t know if I can see it clearly, but I can see that it is a collection of thoughts.

Lets investigate thinking more deeply:
Observing thoughts

Here is a thought exercise. Sit quietly for about 30 minutes and notice the arising thoughts. Just let them appear as they appear. Try your best to COMPLETELY ignore what they are saying and just notice how they appear without you doing anything at all.

Where are they coming from and going to?
Did you do anything to make a particular thought or thoughts appear?
Could you have done anything to make a different thought appear at that exact moment instead?
Can you predict your next thought?
Can you select from a range of thoughts to have only pleasant thoughts?
Can you choose not to have painful, negative or fearful thoughts?
Can you pick and choose any kind of thought?
Is it possible to prevent a thought from appearing?

It seems that thought has some logical ordered appearance, but look carefully and just notice if there is an organised sequence? Or is that just another thought that says ‘these thoughts are in sequence’ or “they take content from previous thought”, or that ‘one thought follows another thought’?