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Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 2:50 am
by Unknown123
Thank you for your kind note, Stacy and for helping me see through this illusion ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
I am grateful forever and humbled by your presence๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•

While writing to you earlier too ok day.. it became crystal clear.. kid this resistance of the mind and belief is also another thought..
I smiled and waited to hear from you.

Thank you for not pushing me at any point.
You waited for me to say this..

Yes there no self and this is seen clearly ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
My expectation for it to be continuous is what has held me back.

With Metta ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
~ nonone ( just labeled ruchi)

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 4:26 pm
by Anastacia42
Yes there no self and this is seen clearly ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
My expectation for it to be continuous is what has held me back.
That is beautiful.

Take your time. Here are the "final" questions. They will be shared with other guides who may have questions:


1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.

3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.

4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?

5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.

Describe intention & give examples from experience.

Describe free will & give examples from experience.

Describe choice & give examples from experience.

Describe control & give examples from experience.

What makes things happen? How does it work?

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.

6) Anything to add?


Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2023 9:11 pm
by Unknown123
Thank you for all your help and support, Stacy.

I have taken a note of the final questions, and I will respond to those during the day.

With Metta,
~ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 1:37 am
by Unknown123
Please see the response to the questions below:
1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?
No. There is no separate self.
Everything just arises in direct experience or in consciousness. All is one consciousness.
All is one.
2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience. Describe it fully as you see it now.
Over generations, lifetimes, as a kid...whose mind is created and programmed to labelling, to memorize, to judge, to analyze against beliefs etc. Programmed to believe in a separate self and a doer of activities/actions.
In turn one forgets the truth and starts identifying with limited labeled form/body. Also, Identifies with thoughts, feelings, etc. Mind externalizes everything and keeps us in the plane of past/future, wants/desires etc.
Stillness and pause brings us back to seeing the musings of mind and source behind mind and senses etc.
3) How does it feel to see this? What is the difference from before you started this dialogue? Please report from the past few days.
A deep calm has set in.
Thank you, Stacy, for holding space and patiently keeping me on track.

My experiments with various teachings kept the mind very open and experimentative,
however, it wasn't a firm yes that I was seeing it clearly and beyond. mind.
My expectations served as a block; something was there that was keeping me in a denial loop.
Philosophy and questioning served as a distraction.
Stopping everything clearly has served wonderfully. Pausing to observe the sensations and it's arising clearly showed the musings of the mind; how it derails again n again. Seeing the sensations come and go has been very reassuring.
It took me a few days to confirm that there is no self.
I was searching for continuity and not glimpses.

Grateful for pointers from Stacy from all my heart. Thank you

PS: Reluctantly, use i/me/myself ...unfortunately, limitations of the language.
4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
Accepting that it is not continuous and compassionately accepting this thought for continuity has helped.
Also, the thought, maybe there is something else is also very humbling.
It has always been here, it is behind everything, it is everything.
Still the search has been never ending.
Never expected it to be so simple and accessible :) Truth humbles me beyond words.
5) Describe decision & give examples from experience.
There is no decision. Everything is happening and happens on its own.
What presents in this moment is acted upon in that moment. No planning, no decisioning.
Just spontaneous actioning. No one deciding, no one doing anything. Just pure witnessing.
The exercise we did, raising a hand just happened. Which hand was never a decision.
Observing over the last few days, just get up and do things...then mind owns up the decisioning/doing part later ...there is a space between acting and owning.
Describe intention & give examples from experience.
Intention is also another thought. Good/Bad is labels of the mind.
There is no intention. Just spontaneous actioning/responding to what is presented in the moment.
No classification of good/bad needed. Again, mind comes to work later.
Actioning just happens in the moment, in spite of any intention in the thoughts.
I may have an intention to sleep in.
However, i just get up and get going next morning and actioning happened in that moment irrespective of intentions.
Describe free will & give examples from experience.
No thing as free will, no thing as will.
Universal consciousness/flows or is at work on its own.
My mind can align or not align it is insignificant. My mind can interpret and do anything. That all futile and not needed.
Things just happen on their own in the nature.
If i look back at life, everything seems to just have happened on its own whether or not I did something or not.
I is just a thought again. I am doing is also just another thought.
Describe choice & give examples from experience.
There is no choice. As shared above.
Universal consciousness/flows or is at work on its own.
If i look back at life, everything seems to just have happened on its own whether or not i did something or not.
Mind claims to have made those choices. However, it was never the case:). What an illusion i have lived till now.
Describe control & give examples from experience.
There is no controller. As shared above for free will and choice.
Universal consciousness/flows or is at work on its own.
Definitely not me any longer. Had mistakenly assumed to be controlling my limited world!
Had often wondered many times in life. Why things worked and came effortlessly many times.
Why things didn't click many times.
Trying to learn lessons (crafted stories from the mind) ...as assumed controller thought back then, had some scope to improve. :)
Things just happen how they happen.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
There no one in particular that makes things happen.
Universal consciousness/flows is at work on its own. As Buddha guides us...such is the nature of things.
Everything just arises and passes away in consciousness/direct experience.
There is just continuous silent observation.

What are you responsible for? Give examples from experience.
Nothing.
Everything is just happening on its own. Continue to watch and observe as things unfold.
There is just continuous silent observation.
Last few days, i have just let things unfold in different ways...few things that didn't need my involvement appeared and vanished. Some needed my involvement and they reappeared, and I thought i acted but when it happened on its own.
These were very focused and to the point discussions. Noticed, a very deep listening happened then.

6) Anything to add?
Please do review my response and guide me further/next steps.

Thank you for this wonderful community and support I have received.
I am grateful from all my heart.

@Stacy - if it's feasible, I would really love to speak with you on phone/zoom call.


With Metta,
~ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:28 am
by Anastacia42
Beautiful answers.

You sound so clear & peaceful.

Yes, we can do a Zoom or phone call. I'm in the US Mountain Time. Remind me of your time zone?

Your answers will be shatter with other guides, who may have questions. Watch this space.

Love,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:31 am
by Anastacia42
Oh yes, Australia. That's a tricky timezone to coordinate with. When were you thinking to chat?

Loving

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:44 am
by Unknown123
Yes there is peace โ˜ฎ๏ธ within.
Nothing to search, seek, learn ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•

Thank you for considering my request.
My mornings and your evenings/ late afternoon will be a good overlap for us.
Please let me know of preferred day/time and happy to work around your availability.

With Metta ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
~ ruchi

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:47 am
by Unknown123
shatter with other guides,
I believe this is just a typo and you meant shared here.
I look forward to their observations ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•

With Metta๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
~ no one (just labeled ruchi)

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 3:17 am
by Anastacia42
Great. Yes, a typo.

I work until about 3:30 pm Mountain. The drive home us any 30 minutes. So, after that, 4 or 4:30 pm or later. No later than 8 pm.

Much love

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 10:19 am
by Unknown123
Hi Stacy,

Letโ€™s lock 5pm Monday ( Mountain time).

Please let me know your email id/phone no. and I will set up a video call.

Look forward to speaking to you.

With Metta,
~ ruchi ๐Ÿ’•

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 2:51 pm
by Anastacia42
Good morning,

No one had any questions and your name has been turned blue here in the forum.

I'll email my contact info. Also, I'm StacyAnnClark on Facebook.

5 pm Monday works.

Loving,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 7:03 pm
by Unknown123
Wonderful โ˜ฎ๏ธ Thank you , Stacy ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
Please communicate a heartfelt thank you to other guides.

I would also like to join the community and support others.
Please advice on next steps.

Speak to you on Monday.

With Metta ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿป๐Ÿ’•
~ none ~ labeled Ruchi )

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2023 11:30 pm
by Anastacia42
Hi,

Yes. So, if you want to volunteer to guide. Let your awakening settle in a bit. Then read some other posts besides mine for comparison and choose a guide you would like to mentor you. Contact that person and see if they are available. Write to Nerina V. and tell her you'd like to guide. She'll change the color of your name & send you some information.

We have just started a Facebook group for new guides to learn. Make sure you get into that.

Then, read the threads of those who are waiting. Find a client you resonate with. Send a link to that to the person who will be mentoring you. You will send all of your posts to that mentor *first* before posting to reply to the client in the Forum.

That will get you started.

Much love,

Re: IntoUnknown

Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2023 10:20 pm
by Unknown123
Thank you, Stacy.

Valuable advice as always. Yes, early days... letting it all sink in.
Watching for all triggers. Mind is having fun:)
I will definitely explore other posts. I have resisted it. As didn't want it to influence and shape any responses earlier.
I have also received an aftercare note from Nerina and advising me on next steps. Thank you for initiating that.

It's a great process to get mentored and ensuring everyone receives the right pointers and advice.
Wonderful approach. Love this.

I look forward to meeting you in few hours.

Apologies for a late revert. I opted to stay away in quiet retreat for the weekend.

With Metta,
~ruchi