The Gate

Hi dear Nicole,

What I can say is that this sticky me- sensation has left.

Wonderful . yes. Life is floating freely. is there reason for worries?
What makes things happen?

There is just switching between being identified with story and seeing that everything is connected. Although most of the time I am still identified.

Aha, OK. We are looking that there is no you which is a thinG.

Notice -
That, wich is not a thinG
is involved in the STORY
"I am a thinG"
:)
does that help?

What is coming when you say
"I am not a thinG"
"There is just a story about me as a thinG"
?

I am with you,
Lubo

Dear Lubo

Life is floating freely. is there reason for worries?
What makes things happen?

This made me smile. It's so obvious that there is no reason for worries. Life happens by itself. This power moves everything. So what will happen will happen anyway. Nothing this persona could do about it'.Even if situations happen that make the person worry. For example a dangerous situation - if the person is supposed to live, help will come anyway. If the person is supposed to die, it will die anyway. And how being looks like after that will be experienced.somehow.

That, wich is not a thinG
is involved in the STORY
"I am a thinG"
:)
does that help?

What is coming when you say

First this me sensation is the center of focus and all there is recognized. So being identified as person. After a while the focus widens and other sensations from "outside the body" come in and this me-sensation is just one of many. So me is this power again. The tiredness that was there before becomes just a little sensation and aliveness is all around

Again, it's all obvious now. But later in the day I might be worried because things seem to be scary.and amnesia about all this might let me who is not a thing be involved in story until something comes up that helps remember.

Feels like goin in circles, but it doesn't feel like sticking in the mud anymore.

Have a great day.

Cheers,
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

This made me smile. It's so obvious that there is no reason for worries. Life happens by itself.

Yes. Wonderful :)

Nothing this persona could do about it'.Even if situations happen that make the person worry.

Mmm, the good and bad news is that this persona never was born and never will exist.
What is coming? Are you curious?
If fear is coming honor it.

After a while the focus widens and other sensations from "outside the body" come in and this me-sensation is just one of many. So me is this power again.

Notice that focus wich brings "me" in the game is not outside but rather than focus to the story -thoughts about me living life?

Notice this thought-narrative - this is hypnotising state
This is how the illusion, about Nicole and Nicole's life appear.
What is coming when you say: "There never was Nicole. There never was life?"

I am with you.

Lubo

Dear Lubo,

persona never was born and never will exist.
What is coming? Are you curious?
If fear is coming honor it.
After a while the focus

First comes "how would I know that?" After a while it becomes obvious. If it doesn't exist it can't be born. So amnesia was there again. But then relaxation comes in and worries fade. But even right now I'm sure if someone put a gun against my head I would be pretty much slipping back into being focused on the story that I was born and I will die.

Notice that focus wich brings "me" in the game is not outside but rather than focus to the story -thoughts about me living life?

When I notice being caught up in story, it is recognized as a narrowed focus in feeling and seeing first. But thoughts about a "me" are definitely going along with it and were there before recognizing the story identification.

What is coming when you say: "There never was Nicole. There never was life?"

To be honest,.what comes up is the same answer as in my last post:
"the focus widens and other sensations from "outside the body" come in and this me-sensation is just one of many. So me is this power again." Also worries fade away.
To this you replied.

Notice this thought-narrative - this is hypnotising state
This is how the illusion, about Nicole and Nicole's life appear.

I'm not sure of I get your point. In the moment I realize these other sensations from "outside the body" they are not experienced as outside the body anymore. All is one. But yes, before that realization there is definitely the hypnosis state of being someone.

Best wishes
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

But even right now I'm sure if someone put a gun against my head I would be pretty much slipping back into being focused on the story that I was born and I will die.

Yes, and this will be terrible, and this is how What is appear in this vey moment, notice the key "how What is appear in this vey moment" ?
and this exact moment is known as "There is someone to whom something may happened" - is this separate from this moment?
Look behind the scene.
What is behind this scene called "now"?
is there a time?

I'm not sure of I get your point. In the moment I realize these other sensations from "outside the body" they are not experienced as outside the body anymore. All is one. But yes, before that realisation there is definitely the hypnosis state of being someone.

Nicole, for me you are clear and we can finish this investigation here, if you want?

But if you are curious for more...check where to go?


Love
Lubo

Dear Lubo,

"There is someone to whom something may happened" - is this separate from this moment?

This totally makes sense. It is overlooked because there is not explicitly the thought "there is someone to whom this happens", but of course the perspective from this threatened"me" is what makes it so scary and "real".

Look behind the scene.
What is behind this scene called "now"?

Behind the scene is being. In this all is appearing through seeing, feeling, hearing,

Nicole, for me you are clear and we can finish this investigation here, if you want?

This is good to read, because I thought I'm still missing the point somewhere as we are still writing :⁠-⁠D

But if you are curious for more...check where to go?

Yes, Im curious for more and if you're there to explore more, I'm happy to do so.

Thank you so much for your time and effort
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

Yes, Im curious for more and if you're there to explore more, I'm happy to do so.

Wonderful. Let's go deeper

This totally makes sense. It is overlooked because there is not explicitly the thought "there is someone to whom this happens", but of course the perspective from this threatened"me" is what makes it so scary and "real".

Yes. Notice the game - Imagination brings "me, a live" + threatened with gun = horror, action movie?

And when we look - there are colours, sounds, sensations + imagination that this is real life + imagination about "a me living this real life"

But is there real life?
Real me alive?

Find them?

I am with you,
Lubo

Dear Lubo,

. Notice the game - Imagination brings "me, a live" + threatened with gun = horror, action movie?

Yes, in deed. When you're pointing it out it's obvious

And when we look - there are colours, sounds, sensations + imagination that this is real life + imagination about "a me living this real life"

I get it. Seems the sticky me-sensation is still there, but on a more subtile level.

But Is there real life?
Real me alive?
Find them?

When checking in again no one is there. No one with a gun. And no one who could be shot.
Just sounds, sensations, colors and more thoughts about "real" situations in "my life" that are scary or annoying. But now it is clear that these situations are not real. Just thoughts telling a story about this "me" that was seen to be not existent.

Have a lovely day
Many thanks,
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

Nice investigation.
I don't know where to go with you.

What is coming, what needs more looking?

Something pos-up:
Is there real life, is there real women or what is appear as...men, women, wall...?

Love
Lubo

Dear Lubo,

What is coming, what needs more looking?

It feels like answering the same questions with the same answers again and again. I am not able to find more than I have found already.
So I wonder what can I do to be more often aware that I am not a person? Even when exploring the power as you suggested before, I often get distracted.
Is this just the way it happens for me or is there any other way to integrate what I have seen more into daily life? Is it just about practice? I am usually not good at applying a method over and over again. I find it much easier to approach the same thing from many directions.

Is there real life, is there real women or what is appear as...men, women, wall...?

Maybe I have some blinders on my eyes, but all that comes up is what I have said before. When being busy /without pausing to take the time to look it seems like everything is really there. Me, others, things happening to me and others. But when I take the time to pause and check in , I realize there is all just happening and there is no me, no others, no wall.
I wonder if I would completely forget about the fact that there is no such self if I we didn't communicate anymore through this forum.
Is there anything I am missing? Any way I could go deeper? Any other direction to go?

Many thanks,
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

When being busy /without pausing to take the time to look it seems like everything is really there. Me, others, things happening to me and others.

It is known that there are stories about persona here and persona there.
That wich knows this story, is it a persona?

Dear Lubo,

That wich knows this story, is it a persona?

That which knows the stories about me and others is not a persona. It is difficult to find words for it. But I can relate to some words I heard about it so far. Call it stillness, vastness, aliveness, being,...
I had some more experiences of being aware that people I met where just appearances in that aliveness and that there is no me that can suffer although pain, fear or whatever can be experienced. So even though I feel like going in circles and giving you the same answers over and over again it seems like I can go deeper in tiny steps.

Thanks for your patience and support.
Warmly,
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,

That which knows the stories about me and others is not a persona. It is difficult to find words for it. But I can relate to some words I heard about it so far. Call it stillness, vastness, aliveness, being,...

Wonderful.

I had some more experiences of being aware that people I met where just appearances in that aliveness and that there is no me that can suffer although pain, fear or whatever can be experienced.

What is to find that there is No ONE alive?

So even though I feel like going in circles and giving you the same answers over and over again it seems like I can go deeper in tiny steps.

Ok. Notice where is the problem?
This going in circles is also known?
That wich knows that, it it in a circle?
Notice why the story " going in circles" should be a problem?
For whom?

Freedom,
Lubo

Dear Lubo,

I had some more experiences of being aware that people I met where just appearances in that aliveness and that there is no me that can suffer although pain, fear or whatever can be experienced.

What is to find that there is No ONE alive?

Sometimes it is relaxation and a feeling of emptiness. But this is still the idea that I am no one/I am empty .So still the identification with something.
When focusing and exploring the aliveness/power, there is just aliveness, being, thoughts become very rare and if there are some, they are quiet ones. The story and meaning making stops, there is just being and noticing what happens (thoughts, feelings, colors, taste, sounds). Things happen by themselves. What was inside my body and outside my body before becomes all one.

Ok. Notice where is the problem?

Yes, when being reminded by your question it is obvious. There is still the idea that a me has to get somewhere. That there is someone who needs to wake up.

This going in circles is also known?

Yes, this is very familiar. Still the old story that "I" need to move forward. What is just happening is not good enough. Comparing "myself" with imaginary other people who are assumed to move forward so quickly.

That wich knows that, it it in a circle?

That which "realizes" it goes in circles is not there. There is the thought "I am going in circles" and more thoughts about a me feeling stuck, has felt stuck before, should experience something different,.can't see what is there. All this story, but the character of the story is made up, not there, Just thoughts and feelings of disappointed and frustration.

Notice why the story " going in circles" should be a problem?
For whom?

Exactly. No one there who is going in circles. Just the imagination of it and being identified with that character. When this is realized the drama goes away. Just some sensations + thoughts that are sometimes staying and sometimes even go away completely when the aliveness comes into focus. Then there is relaxation or even joy.

Best wishes,
Nicole

Hi dear Nicole,
I get it, where you are.

Sometimes it is relaxation and a feeling of emptiness. But this is still the idea that I am no one/I am empty .So still the identification with something

"I am empty" and "I am full" are two sides of a one coin.

Identification - imagination that there is someone guilt, imagination "I am + persona"
Here it is a trick to see trou this imagination:
Notice in front of you, flower, fruit or the wall
Then notice that the word "wall, flower, fruit..." points only to this exact colours, shape, texture, taste, smell
but can be found real flower, fruit, wall... which has this characteristics?

No with the label "I am a self/Nicole"
There are colours, shape, sensations, thoughts but is there "Nicole/self
which exist?

Without imagination "persona" what" left ?
What this words point to?
What you are?
What is that which can say "I am persona" and "I am not a persona, there is not persona"
Is there a time?

I am with you,
Love
Lubo