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When we look very closely and precisely we come to see that “me” thoughts only refer to other “me” thoughts, not to an actual abiding “me.”
Observe thoughts wth precision; can you ever find a ‘me’ within the “me” thoughts and feelings, or just a sense of me?


Pay attention to mental activity – to thoughts and images in the mind.
Where are they arising?
Are they inside something?
Are they central to you, or are they peripheral?
Do they leave any trace when they have gone?

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Also on sunday,

Remember that there is only thoughts appearing in the now and there is no other time.

Focus on people who are telling stories from an illusory past..Can be anything a person appearing on tv telling about 2'nd world war... a friend telling about a memory that you shared together..Family members talking about an illusory yesterday etc..

Focus how they strongly believe that this past has really happened in the past.
Remember that this has no actual experience and it is a world from words...

See you on Monday..

Sending love..

[Sara]

Thank you for the good looking Sara.
I hope the operation was ok.
How did you feel about the body during this operation.
How did you feel about the "i" thought there ?
Did you have any insights ?
but there is an entity made of flesh with thoughts and feelings.
IS there ?
Press one finger to the flesh..
Is it a body or is it only a sensation ? What says that it is an entity made of flesh ?
Is there really a body ? What is the actual experience made of flesh with thoughts and feelings ?

Dear Adil,
The operation went well - thank you.
I had some initial fear that there would be pain during the operation (as I thought I would be awake) but I was prepared to try to see it as sensations arising and passing rather than fixing it as "my pain".
The operation did bring the "I" thought up quite strongly though, as if there was something that needed protecting.
In fact, the sedation meant that I was barely conscious throughout.
Since the operation, I have been trying to remember to look at sensations in my body as direct experience rather than label them as pain. etc which is not helpful. Better to say " prickling, burning, squeezing" etc.

Re an entity made of flesh with thoughts and feelings:
I said this because in the same way as there was a direct experience of looking at a "spoon" as colour, shape, etc, there was a direct experience of looking at the "hand" which gave rise to the thought that there is a body there.

I see that it is only a sensation when I press finger to flesh and that it is a thought saying this is an entity made of flesh.
I don't know if there is really a body or not. There is a thought that says there is a body.
The actual experience is that there is something solid which experiences sensations and thoughts and feelings. Or is that just another thought?

Thank you Adil. Love Sara.

[Sara]

When we look very closely and precisely we come to see that “me” thoughts only refer to other “me” thoughts, not to an actual abiding “me.”
Observe thoughts wth precision; 1 can you ever find a ‘me’ within the “me” thoughts and feelings, or just a sense of me?


Pay attention to mental activity – to thoughts and images in the mind.
2 Where are they arising?
3 Are they inside something?
4 Are they central to you, or are they peripheral?
5 Do they leave any trace when they have gone?

1 I can't find a "me"
2 They just arise
3 No
4 There is nothing for them to attach to
5 No trace

Thank you Adil. And also for the message about past experiences which are illusory and how recalling them is "a world from words". Love Sara

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Thank you for the good looking Sara.
I hope the operation was ok.
How did you feel about the body during this operation.
How did you feel about the "i" thought there ?
Did you have any insights ?
but there is an entity made of flesh with thoughts and feelings.
IS there ?
Press one finger to the flesh..
Is it a body or is it only a sensation ? What says that it is an entity made of flesh ?
Is there really a body ? What is the actual experience made of flesh with thoughts and feelings ?

Dear Adil,
The operation went well - thank you.
I had some initial fear that there would be pain during the operation (as I thought I would be awake) but I was prepared to try to see it as sensations arising and passing rather than fixing it as "my pain".
The operation did bring the "I" thought up quite strongly though, as if there was something that needed protecting.
In fact, the sedation meant that I was barely conscious throughout.
Since the operation, I have been trying to remember to look at sensations in my body as direct experience rather than label them as pain. etc which is not helpful. Better to say " prickling, burning, squeezing" etc.

Re an entity made of flesh with thoughts and feelings:
I said this because in the same way as there was a direct experience of looking at a "spoon" as colour, shape, etc, there was a direct experience of looking at the "hand" which gave rise to the thought that there is a body there.

I see that it is only a sensation when I press finger to flesh and that it is a thought saying this is an entity made of flesh.
I don't know if there is really a body or not. There is a thought that says there is a body.
The actual experience is that there is something solid which experiences sensations and thoughts and feelings. Or is that just another thought?

Thank you Adil. Love Sara.

Good to hear the operation was ok Sara. Yes during fear arise me thought also arise.
If there is no me who is the fear for, what is fear protecting :)

Wishing health soon..

Let's loook

There is a thought that says there is a body.

Sure..Thought creates all of these :)

I don't know if there is really a body or not.

Are given labels to sensation+color real ?
Isn't it nothing but a thought label ?
What is it more then sensation+color+thought?
:)

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Thank you Adil. And also for the message about past experiences which are illusory and how recalling them is "a world from words". Love Sara

How is the belief to an illusory past ?
Is there yesterday ? 1 month ago ? 1 year ago ?
Have you been born ?
Can you see that all is arising in the now ?

[Sara]

1 Are given labels to sensation+color real ?
2 Isn't it nothing but a thought label ?
3What is it more then sensation+color+thought?

4 How is the belief to an illusory past ?
5 Is there yesterday ? 1 month ago ? 1 year ago ?
6 Have you been born ?
7 Can you see that all is arising in the now ?

1 - no they are just labels
2 - I see that it is just a thought label
3 - there's nothing more

4 - It is like a dream - not truly existent
5 - no yesterday, no month ago and no year ago - just thoughts of them
6 - Here is where the illusory self wants to assert itself with the thought "Yes of course! Here I am! This is me!" but I know that is untrue and that I haven't been born. I accept that but I don't see it like I see that Santa has never existed.
7 - I see it sometimes, but then forget to look and everything comes back to "normal" (not how things really are when I LOOK AND SEE)

Thank you Adil. Love Sara

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I accept that but I don't see it like I see that Santa has never existed.

Where is this self when you don't think about it ?
Where is it while you are driving, eating, listening to music ?
IF it is not real and there while you have no thoughts about it how can it be real, here and now ?


7 - I see it sometimes, but then forget to look and everything comes back to "normal" (not how things really are when I LOOK AND SEE)

Looking is the very much key like we always say..
Your thinking pattern eventually changes. Keep on looking instead of thinking Sara.
There is nothing called "normal".
All is awareness.

[Sara]

Where is this self when you don't think about it ?
Where is it while you are driving, eating, listening to music ?
IF it is not real and there while you have no thoughts about it how can it be real, here and now ?

When I am absorbed in something else and not thinking about myself, I can experience strongly that there is no self. Even when I'm doing activities on "automatic pilot" and there may be thoughts going on in the background, there is no self.

Continuing to look instead of thinking....

Thank you Adil. Love Sara

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Here is one daily looking exercise,

Throughout the day, when a thought about "I" comes up, replace the letter!

"I want to have this" -> "O want to have this"

Can "O" want to have anything? No.

How then could "I" want to have anything?

"I don't like that" -> "A don't like that"

Can "A" dislike anything? No.
How come there is an idea that "I" can dislke anything?

Observe this throughout the day and report what comes up!

[Sara]

Good morning Adil,

"D" want to continue with this exercise today please and report back tomorrow.

Thanks, love Sara

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Good morning Adil,

"D" want to continue with this exercise today please and report back tomorrow.

Thanks, love Sara

🤣 sure

[Sara]

Replacing the letter "I"

Z loved this exercise! It made me smile but also took the heat out of desire, ill-will, preference. "I" is no more valid than "B" or "Q" and is no more real. P intend to continue doing this (whenever R can remember!) It really opened up a very helpful space and lessened the pre-occupation with T and all the props that V include to shore up the sense of self.

Thank you Adil, love Sara.

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Replacing the letter "I"

Z loved this exercise! It made me smile but also took the heat out of desire, ill-will, preference. "I" is no more valid than "B" or "Q" and is no more real. P intend to continue doing this (whenever R can remember!) It really opened up a very helpful space and lessened the pre-occupation with T and all the props that V include to shore up the sense of self.

Thank you Adil, love Sara.

😂
H love this funny exercises..

So Sara..

Where is this self ?
Is there any ?
Where is this sense of self ?
Is there any ?
Where is the responsibility ?
Is there any ?
Where would you like us to look more if you like ?
Is there any ?
Are you ready for final questions ?
Are you ready ?
😂

[Sara]

Where is this self ?
Is there any ?
Where is this sense of self ?
Is there any ?
Where is the responsibility ?
Is there any ?
Where would you like us to look more if you like ?
Is there any ?
Are you ready for final questions ?
Are you ready ?
😂

The self is nowhere to be found. There is no self.
The sense of self is just a thought.
I don't understand the question about responsibility !
I think I know how to look but I forget.
Yes I'm ready...there are thoughts of trepidation. I still want my hand holding.

Thank you Adil. Love Sara