The Gate

Thanks a lot for those beautiful answers!

Thank you for the great passion and compassion!

The apparent separate self was seen for what it is. There is no doubt about that.

Glad to hear that.

I would now suggest the following.
Since "The Gate" is for seeing through the illusion of a separate self, we can conclude the conversation here now.
I will show our thread to the other guides and see whether they want to highlight anything.
Once the confirmation is over, we can account for the still arising curiosity in the forum for further investigations.

Is that okay with you?

Sure, OK! I follow.

Just one question about this process.
I thought that "That Gate" is only for those who crashed it with the celebration like the one that occurred to Lisa, and this conversation continues until it occurs.
Apparently, the celebration did not occur here. So, it seems it was my misunderstanding :)

Could you explain the process further? Unless, it's not helpful, you think. As you know, I did NOT read any other thread and even LU facebook conversation, so I'm not familiar with the process :)

Thank you, _()_

Never mind, I misread your comment. Please ignore "Just one question about this process....." section.

Thank you, _()_

Anyway!

There was a plea, not to read other threads since it can give rise to comparison and expectations.
Which is exactly what we are having here:

"That Gate" is only for those who crashed it with the celebration like the one that occurred to Lisa

Apparently, the celebration did not occur here.

"This 'celebration' happened to 'her' but did not happen to 'me'."
"Therefore we are waiting for exactly the kind of celebration to arrive as it arrived for her, before there is no clarity".

This is expectation arisen through comparison.


1. Can you see that?

2. Can you drop this comparison and only ever focus on the present direct experience?

1. Can you see that?
2. Can you drop this comparison and only ever focus on the present direct experience?

Sure, I focus on only present direct experience.

Thank you, _()_

Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No. separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I' never ever existed. There is no entity, so there is no shape, nor form.

Anything to add?

There is still curiosity. But, I focus on your guide on separate self.

Is there anything left to focus on concerning the idea of a separate self?

Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form? Was there ever?

No. separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I' never ever existed. There is no entity, so there is no shape, nor form.

Anything to add?

There is still curiosity. But, I focus on your guide on separate self.

Is there anything left to focus on concerning the idea of a separate self?

I do not see any.
But, I follow your guide.

Thank you, _()_

Is there further guidance needed concerning the illusion of a separate self?

Is there further guidance needed concerning the illusion of a separate self?

I wish you tell me.
Thank you, _()_

No. No, unfortunately not.
That's is not how it works.
Looking at the replies to the final questions, it seems to be very very clear.
But otherwise only you alone can tell whether the illusion of a separate self was seen through or not.

No. No, unfortunately not.
That's is not how it works.

Got it!

Looking at the replies to the final questions, it seems to be very very clear.
But otherwise only you alone can tell whether the illusion of a separate self was seen through or not.

It's clear that it can only be encouraged, not triggered. There is nothing that can be triggered, even raising my finger.
Also, it's obvious that whether the Awakening happens here or not is matter to NO One.

No need for further guidance concerning the illusion of a separate self.

Thank you, _()_

Here comes this question from the very beginning again.
Have a fresh and innocent look at it.
Look at direct experience.
Look at what is here now.
Look at the seen, the heard, the sensed, thought...

whether the Awakening happens here or not

So there is an expectation, that some form of awakening will happen.
Awakening to what exactly? To something else than what is right now in experience?

What here now needs to awake?
What here now is not awake?

So there is an expectation, that some form of awakening will happen.

Yes, I see the expectation.

Awakening to what exactly? To something else than what is right now in experience?

I do NOT know. Just, I heard or learned over years about the event happened to those sages, which is called Awakening, which means the event that the false self disappear, so that blind can see and realize that he was never blind.

What here now needs to awake?

Nothing.

What here now is not awake?

Nothing.


I think this is my situation.

I see clearly nothing that needs to awake. At the same time, there is clear expectation for an event, which is against to the previous statement.

Two sayings lingering these days:
"No Seeker, No Problem", Robert Wolfe once told me.
"The Truth is nearer to you than you are to yourself", you know who told me.

Thank you, _()_

PS.
These days, I'm little excited while planning to travel Europe myself, the first time ever, the long waited bucket list.

I heard or learned over years about the event happened to those sages, which is called Awakening, which means the event that the false self disappear, so that blind can see and realize that he was never blind.

Now is the time to drop this knowledge and see what remains here.
Can you do that?

"No Seeker, No Problem", Robert Wolfe once told me.

Drop also this knowledge.

"The Truth is nearer to you than you are to yourself", you know who told me.

And drop also this knowledge.


Drop ALL knowledge about "Awakening".
EVERYTHING that was learned about it and all related topics.


Take your time and just let go of all that spiritual baggage.
Look only ever at what is here and now.
With the question:
What is not awake?
Is there anything, which is not awake and needs to awaken?

Or is there just a thought story about a someone, who needs to awake?
Does this someone truly exist?

I think this is my situation.

What is the "I" in this situation?
What says: "This is MY situation"?
What exactly is in this situation?

Now is the time to drop this knowledge and see what remains here.
Can you do that?

Do I have power to do that? Dropping from what?

What is the "I" in this situation?
What says: "This is MY situation"?
What exactly is in this situation?

It's all about illusion of "I".

"No Seeker, No Problem", Robert Wolfe once told me.

Drop also this knowledge.

"The Truth is nearer to you than you are to yourself", you know who told me.

And drop also this knowledge.


Drop ALL knowledge about "Awakening".
EVERYTHING that was learned about it and all related topics.


Take your time and just let go of all that spiritual baggage.
Look only ever at what is here and now.
With the question:
What is not awake?
Is there anything, which is not awake and needs to awaken?

Or is there just a thought story about a someone, who needs to awake?
Does this someone truly exist?

I'll drop everything and look only at what is here and now.

Thank you, _()_

Now is the time to drop this knowledge and see what remains here.
Can you do that?

Do I have power to do that? Dropping from what?

"To drop" is just a term.
We can also say: Forget about this knowledge.

I heard or learned over years about the event happened to those sages, which is called Awakening, which means the event that the false self disappear, so that blind can see and realize that he was never blind.

To disregard those stories about other characters' awakening.
Because it's just that.
A story.

And only look at this present experience without expectations and comparison.

I think this is my situation.

I see clearly nothing that needs to awake. At the same time, there is clear expectation for an event, which is against to the previous statement.

Can you forget about the expectation for an "event" and just embrace what ever may come?