Re: HappyOne's Thread
Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2017 11:02 am
No worries! Glad that you are okay!
Love, Kay
Love, Kay
Liberation Unleashed Forum The Gate
https://liberationunleashed.com:443/nation/
https://liberationunleashed.com:443/nation/viewtopic.php?t=6325
No, there is no separate 'self', 'me', or 'I', at all in any way shape or form. And no, there never was. Thoughts arise containing this information, for example, 'I am Sarah' and 'my body', but there is no 'self' to be found in these passing thoughts. Just the same, these thoughts are simply thoughts. They know nothing of these labels 'I', 'me', or 'self'. Thought only 'knows' itself. In this way, it does not reflect (or know) this 'I', 'me' or 'self', it is only a thought.1) Is there a separate entity 'self', 'me' 'I', at all, anywhere, in any way, shape or form?
Was there ever?
The illusion of separate self is everpresent in thought experience arising with ANY label and/or story. There is no beginning, just as there is no ending, because there is only THIS.2) Explain in detail what the illusion of separate self is, when it starts and how it works from your own experience.
Describe it fully as you see it now.
It feels like 'time' has stopped. It feels like a dream within a dream while at the same time, more 'real' than anything 'I' have 'ever' experienced. With persistent illusory thoughts arising making for an interesting mix of experiences.3) How does it feel to see this?
What is the difference from before you started this dialogue?
Please report from the past few days.
It occurred more gradually for me. Beginning with the understanding of labels the elimination of 'I', 'me' and 'my' from thoughts was the first big eye-opener.4) What was the last bit that pushed you over, made you look?
(a) Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all illusions. Thoughts of the the previous will contain the labels 'I', 'me', 'my' etc, as they arise and pass. This is all they are.5) a) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control.
b) What makes things happen? How does it work?
c) What are you responsible for?
d) Give examples from experience.
I would very much like to join the group for those who have passes through the gateless gate.6) Anything to add?