The Gate

Hi Mark,

You are making a fucking mess with the quote function!
Sometimes I read and think: wow, he is improving, but then it are my own typings...

I never said I wasn't schizophrenic. haha

Ok, now for real. I really want to help you, but when you dont give any clue, its impossible.

You know "I" is a thought construction.
The real questions now is: why isnt it enough for you?
What do you mean by: I want to see?
Because you already see "I" is a thought construction.
You expect what? Thunder and lightning?

There never was a separate I, and you agreed to that several times.
If you cant tell me why you agree and in the same time disagree, I advise you to search more time-consuming paths.
There are many you can spent lifetimes with.
I expect a real answer from you now.

Regards, Petrus.

You know "I" is a thought construction.

Yes I do.

The real questions now is: why isnt it enough for you?

Because I have not had direct experience to show me the truth.

What do you mean by: I want to see?

I want to experience directly. I want to see and know the self is no-thing through the one.

Because you already see "I" is a thought construction.

Yes. I believe that "I" is not real. It's just a belief.

You expect what? Thunder and lightning?

I expect nothing.

There never was a separate I, and you agreed to that several times

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Yes, I did.

If you cant tell me why you agree and in the same time disagree, I advise you to search more time-consuming paths

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I agreed but with a statement that I only know from a belief. I did say yes several times. But the last time I had an awakening experience and then thought all those previous answers were bullshit. Because I saw that I don't know it on a direct experiential level. So I felt like a fraud and liar so I changed my stance on it.
It's like I always said "we are all one" as a belief and mantra for years and years. Then I had the oneness experience and I KNEW we were all one because the one showed me. And then I knew that I didn't know jack shit about "we are all one" until that direct experience showed me.
The six final questions ask to describe my direct experience with the illusion of separate self. I have no direct experience with the illusion of a separate self. Any answers would just be guesses and beliefs.

There are many you can spent lifetimes with.

If you think that I could have the full experience of knowing there's no separate self with guesses and beliefs well then I would say "no separate entity exists' to the first question. Then we can move forward on those questions.

I expect a real answer from you now.

Hihi ok!

There never will be a direct experience that there is no I.

You say you have no expectation, but you do: you expect a direct experience.

Can you tell me how you can have a direct experience of the fact that Santa does not exist?
It was told and then you had a look.
Maybe you had to get used to it.
But there is no such thing as direct experiencing that.

There is no direct experiencing that I exist either.

It is all thoughts.

Forget the oness experience ! It is great experiencing that. But it never will get back the same way, nor will it last.
And again: there never will be a direct experience that there is no I.
And you already have seen there is no such thing as a seperate I.

Warm regards, Petrus

Can you experience directly that the earth is round? Or flat?
No it was told to you.

There never will be a direct experience that there is no I.

Because nothing is there,OK. You are my guide. I will trust that you know.

You say you have no expectation, but you do: you expect a direct experience.

OK,touche.

Can you tell me how you can have a direct experience of the fact that Santa does not exist?

I cannot. Nobody can find Santa or "I". They both don't exist.

It was told and then you had a look.
Maybe you had to get used to it.
But there is no such thing as direct experiencing that.
There is no direct experiencing that I exist either.

OK, I understand the logic of it.

It is all thoughts.

Alright, I understand. So where do go from here?

Forget the oness experience ! It is great experiencing that. But it never will get back the same way, nor will it last.
And again: there never will be a direct experience that there is no I.
And you already have seen there is no such thing as a seperate I.

So where do go from here?

Nowhere. We are condemned to be here.
The good news is there not a someone here.
And nothing ever is going to happen.

You dont have to be afraid you dont exist.
Existance exists, only no separate you...
No control you, no fat you, no angry you, no personal you. Only an existance you and from there is only one.

You dont have to be afraid you dont exist.
Existance exists, only no separate you...
No control you, no fat you, no angry you, no personal you. Only an existance you and from there is only one.

I am

Not I am afraid. "I am" as in existence exists.
I am so not afraid to see. It's my passion.

Hi Mark,

So I think we are done here. At least I am. If you want more you can ask for another guide in a new thread. Is that ok with you?

Warm regards, Petrus

Free country, brother.
Yes I want more.
Is that OK with me?
It will have to be OK with me.
Dumping me without even a previous hint that you were done with our communication seems to lack honesty and integrity.

Here is something I read before I put my name on the board.
It's from the introduction section in The Gate.

Almost all we do is give you questions. You look for answers and tell us what you got with total honesty. Then we give you more questions… And we carry on until seeing happens.

We will not leave you in the middle, we might use a stronger push, or the ‘strike with the zen stick’ when needed – or just take your hand and walk you through.

As long as a guide picks me up I will stick it out however long it takes.
I will see this through until I "see".

So hopefully I am not done here.

Ciao Petrus,
I wish peace and love on you and your family.
Thank you for your time and guidance.

Hi Mark,

I am not dumping you. I just dont have any questions left for you.
I think another guide with a different approach can help you.

Warm regards,
Petrus