Zero lower bound

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Xain
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Re: Zero lower bound

Postby Xain » Tue Apr 11, 2017 11:20 pm

Thank you - Here are the final three questions:

4) Was there something specific you looked into or something that was mentioned that made you fully realise? - Was there a specific moment where you 'tipped over' into realising 'no self'?

5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control as you understand it now. What makes things happen? How does it work? What are you responsible for? Please give examples from experience if you can, and explain what you have realised.

6) Do you have anything further you would like to add?

Xain ♥

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Re: Zero lower bound

Postby Abraxaz » Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:56 am

4) Was there something specific you looked into or something that was mentioned that made you fully realise? - Was there a specific moment where you 'tipped over' into realising 'no self'?
there were many things that were helpful. Realizing that all aspects of this process are changing - may have been the first major step. Watching thoughts come and go - and realizing that they are not controlled or controllable and then seeing this is true for all things. Seeing that I am not my thoughts and feelings was a major breaking point. This was not obvious to me - though in retrospect Im not sure why.
5) Describe decision, intention, free will, choice and control as you understand it now..
Decision, intention, free will, choice and control are all ways to divide up reality in an artificial way. Each one is fictional because at its core it makes an assumption that things can be different than they are. They can't. This is what is.
What makes things happen? How does it work?
I don't know. Im ok with this. I have thoughts about this - but they are just thoughts - I know them not to be the real thing anymore. things are happening - explanations as to why or how may also be extra steps

What are you responsible for?
I'm not sure how responsibility is different than control. if It is let me know, I might have a different answer.
Please give examples from experience if you can, and explain what you have realised
I never have the thoughts that "I am a good person." or " I am an angry person" or any thought like this. these thoughts just never occur anymore. they simply don't make sense in light of the current understanding . Its not that anger does not exist in experience - i just see very clearly that it is not me or who I am. Its not a far stretch to see that suffering is created when I forget this. "I am angry now" is simply a variation of "I am an angry person" I am seeing this more clearly and more often now as well.


6) Do you have anything further you would like to add?
Thanks for taking the time to do this. Its been very helpful.

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Re: Zero lower bound

Postby Xain » Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:06 am

Hi Abraxaz

The other guides have read over your answers and they are, like me, very confident that you've seen through the illusion.
Congratulations - Thank for an enjoyable conversation and for sticking with the process to the end.

Realising 'no self' is one of a whole series of realisation that are possible, albeit it could be considered as 'the most important one'.

Mental suffering may still occur - A constant push and pull against life / Wanting things to be different from the way they are - Still a subtle belief that there is something 'here' which reacts to things in experience in a negative way. This can be examined.

There is also experience itself that can be examined. There will still be a dimension that there is something 'here' experiencing objects and a world 'out there' - An experiential subject/object duality. This can also be examined.

If you are on Facebook I can add you to our groups there for 'New Arrivals' and 'Further looking' etc. If you wish this, please let me know your Facebook name or page link in a private email and I can arrange that for you (click the red name 'Xain' and choose 'Send Private Message').

I wish you a very happy and peaceful onward journey
Xain ♥


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