Diving head in!

[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

I so love reading your posts! :-) Thank you! Your post just arrived as I replied to someone.

Please send them and let me know whenever possible. On this note; I do believe that we have accomplished A LOT by using words. The bottom line is that they are only pointers..labels. And I do understand that you are gauging me by the way the words are being written and this is totally fine.

Good. Great. I will paste in the first three questions by one of the guides, at the end of this post.

I need to share with you 2 things. The first one is that for some reason, Franklin is treated like gold anywhere I go or do. Well...I just hung up a call with customer service and the representative was the most condescending and berating I have ever come across. The greatest thing is that when I hung up with him, I was literally laughing because whatever words he used; just went through me. This has never happened to me. For more petty things I have taken things way personally. While this whole thing was unraveling I am telling you; its as if everything was going through me as the real hologram I have realized I am. I have never felt so much peace. THANK YOU Jon.

This is wonderful to hear. :-)

2nd.....its not recall if I have mentioned to you that I am personally building an Orphanage in the Dominican Republic; the country that I am originally from. Well...I need to plant a seed with you and the rest of the guides: Your help is needed to help me incorporate this journey in the curriculum for Genesis Home. I am building this place because in a way I lost most of my faith in the human condition and I always knew that something can be done with children IF they are given the right programming from the get go in a safe and loving place. Can you believe if Liberation Unleashed is taught in children's language and our kids would know this Truth at months old?? this IS what is all about!! :-)

Wow. That sounds like an amazing project!

We do not guide anyone under 18 years old here at LU for various reasons. But I have no doubt that seeing that the self is not a fixed and separate thing would naturally emerge, through behaviour, and communicate to young people. Maybe the 'right programming' could usefully start with not inflicting false beliefs of various kinds? Anyway there is lots of scope for conversation about this.

Here are the three questions I mentioned. When you come to consider these and answer them, do so from immediate experience. Avoid answering anything in a way that is flowery or symbolic, or using spiritual-sounding words that others may not even recognize! Very plain speech, literal, as if to a child, would be a good idea. If there doesn't seem to be an answer to a particular question, then just honestly say so! Okay?...Here goes:

1. What exactly is it that makes logical conclusions based on decisions? What is a decision and what is a decision based on and what makes those decisions?

2. And please explain further what you are responsible for? What is it exactly, that you are being" true to" and that follows "innate infallible wisdom" and who "screwed up"? Please describe this someone in precise details and where this someone is located.

3. What is it exactly that makes choices? Please give an example on where a choice was made and then the decision to follow that choice was made. Pinpoint the exact moment, that the choice was made and then the decision was made to action the choice and then describe who/what made them.


Jon.

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Hi Jon! well, I will then continue to witness how the Truth of the I keeps changing me and then how I will model this to the over 100 volunteers that are working with me in putting this project together and then see how the Truth trickles down from us to the children. :-)

If you ever plan a trip to the Dominican Republic; please let me know so we can host you?

As I mentioned earlier; I live in Washington DC. I might be moving down to a southern State for better winters and the next move might be my final here in the States. I will keep you posted so you will know another place that you could come and visit here in the United States.

Well, unto your questions as if I am explaining this to a child :-)

1. What exactly is it that makes logical conclusions based on decisions? What is a decision and what is a decision based on and what makes those decisions?

There is no "decision". There is no "conclusion" to arrive to. There is only a place that you arrive to and you will know that you got there only based on what is felt. What does feel good? follow the feeling!. What is being felt in the moment is the indicator of the way one should go.

2. And please explain further what you are responsible for? What is it exactly, that you are being" true to" and that follows "innate infallible wisdom" and who "screwed up"? Please describe this someone in precise details and where this someone is located.

There is no "someone"...there is only experience being witnessed. (for some reason this cannot be diluted into a more liquid or "digestible" form). There is no self who witnesses what is; its just awareness being aware. The moment that we put a label on it (any label like good or bad, hot or cold) I am not being true to awareness that only IS and nothing else.

3. What is it exactly that makes choices? Please give an example on where a choice was made and then the decision to follow that choice was made. Pinpoint the exact moment, that the choice was made and then the decision was made to action the choice and then describe who/what made them.

Let me give my personal latest example. For the last 4 years there was a feeling that was very common and pervasive to me. I felt that there was something that was not right in my marriage. I constantly felt "unsafe". Was this the results of previous programming that I was using to interpret life as I always had? in big part, yes! because I could not interpret what was happening IF I didn't have a frame, a point of reference to what I could compare it to. And after a while I arrived to a place where a decision had to be made but I really never made a decision. It was actually difficult to explain it to my wife that I was not coming back to the house (we were already separated for about 6 months). It was more of a knowing that coming back to the house was a direction that should have not being taken. That was my Truth. I am here using words to indicate or point out to something and still this is not true to this knowing in one's heart of hearts.

I don't know if this makes sense to you Jon; I know that it makes absolute sense to me.

I am still using "I" and "me" and "you" and so on; but I am not identifying with any of those labels anymore.

I also wanted to share something else with you. Yesterday I heard this quote from Carl Jung and his words point out to the "t" the place that I have arrived thanks to you and Liberation Unleashed. This is how it goes:

"Thoroughly unprepared we take the step into the afternoon of life. Worst still we take this step with the false presupposition that our truths and our ideals will serve us as hitherto. But we cannot live the afternoon of life according to the program of life's morning. For what was great in the morning will be little at evening....and what in the morning was true, at evening will have become a lie"

Jon: Yours in Love and Light,



Franklin.

[JonathanR]

Thank you so much for those answers Franklin.

Now for the other questions from three other guides. Please answer each in turn if you will? Don't be concerned if there is a certain amount of repetition. Again,as always, from immediate experience...


a) Concerning the relationship between "thought" and things happening. Is there an agent that thinks and makes things happen?


b) Please give real examples of decisions that you seemingly made and how thoughts enacted those
decisions?


c) Describe the self that makes decisions and has free will?


Many thanks,

Jon

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Here it goes:

a) Concerning the relationship between "thought" and things happening. Is there an agent that thinks and makes things happen?

Experience always follows thought and all thoughts are impersonal. This pure consciousnesses (what we really are) is not in or on the thoughts. Its in the space in between each thought. There is no "I" thinking. There is no "me" thinking. There is no agent thinking. We are being "thought".

b) Please give real examples of decisions that you seemingly made and how thoughts enacted those
decisions?

I need to go to the gym....how much available time I have between now and my next meeting? 2.5 hours.... OK, lets get ready and go to the gym for a 30 minute cardio and then get back; take a shower, eat something and prepare for your meeting. If you have 15 minutes to spare; journal. For me, today; that is a decision and I shared the thoughts behind it.

c) Describe the self that makes decisions and has free will?

It is not my intention to sound "spiritual" or "holier than thou"....If you ask me this question before I started this journey with you; I would have told you that it was me making a decision and that this "me" was the result of every experience that has come my way up until that moment AND that is not the case anymore.

This "self" that does exist is not a self per se. Its not a body. Its not the mind-body. Its pure consciousnesses. And this awareness inside each of us is aware of this consciousnesses. That's what its observed in that space between each thought on meditation that for me now has been stretched and those moments are longer and longer in between. Awareness aware of itself!!!. I don't fret about answering any questions and my head is shaking as I am trying to explain this knowing that is so evident to me.

I just spent about a minute looking at my fingers on the keyboard and no thoughts popped up until I hear the voice saying: "write just that". That voice just popped. I didn't think about having the thought of hearing that voice. I was just aware of this space (while looking at my fingers resting on the keyboard) without any thought and suddenly out that space the thought "write just that" popped up.

Am I making sense to you?

[JonathanR]

Hi Franklin,

You make sense to all of us! In the end seven guides were considering our conversation and there are no more questions.

You don't need us to tell you that you see through the illusion of 'self'. But now I am in the happy position of being able to invite you to join our Aftercare group on Facebook. I will Private Message you with details about that..

Congratulations Franklin. I can't tell you how happy I am

Thank you so much for your kind invitation to let me visit you one day, either in the Unitef States or in Dominican Republic! We must keep in touch and, thankfully, there is quite a well-developed system for this.

Sorry, I have run out of time to post. I will post more to you later.

Love

Jon

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Jon.........it's in moments like this that I wish that there would be a device that could measure the state of one's heart because I cannot find words to describe how I am feeling right now.

The word bliss comes to mind.....

THANK YOU and the rest of the guides. I have a fertil heart and I am filled with anticipation to witness how this realization will continue to take shape and how I will also help others.

Your timing is impecable because I am getting ready to go to New York now and then on Tuesday I will be headed to Oregon. That's 3 more hours behind London so if you write it might take me a bit longer to get back to you.

THANK YOU Jon and Liberation Unleashed!

Yours in Love and Light,



Franklin Hernandez

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[JonathanR]

Hello Franklin,

Thank you! For such a great conversation. It has been a heartfelt pleasure.

I have sent a Private Message to you via the facility for doing so on this forum. Please find it. It contains all the info you need.

Hope your flights go well!

With best wishes,

Love

Jon