Re: AM I?
Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2012 7:13 pm
Sorry to hear you have a cold Bartek. Please only reply when you are able to look honestly and fully at where you are.
Regards,
Graham
Regards,
Graham
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Yes, I see that, but there's this constant pressure in the body which clenches my nerves and makes 'me' feel me.Do you notice how you, or the thought of you is not there all the time. For example when you are really engrossed in something, the thought that you are doing this, or you did this, only comes at intervals, ie 'you' are nothing more
than another thought, or thought construct (self image) that arises and dissolves from time to time. Do 'you' see this?
I feel impossibility to see this.You' do not aim or own anything, let alone awareness. There is an experience; the 'I' labels it 'mine';
thoughts arise that create a story of what the experience means. Experience has no inherent meaning; all meaning is created by thought stories.
The imaginary character Bartek is writing 'his' stories. Once you begin to see this it is difficult to get sucked in
to the current story.
I know that right now, I'll probably forget that in 10 seconds. I don't have influence on that psyche.But you know that the content of all thought is entirely imaginary, don't you?
No, I'm confused, I cannot focus, I have attention deficit disorder. My thoughts are mixed and it depresses me whole the time.A thought is right where it is being thought. The 'I' that is trying to grasp thought is another thought, and thought cannot do anything as it is imaginary. Do 'you' see this?
what do you mean by 'fully' ?Please only reply when you are able to look honestly and fully at where you are.
So it is seen! The pressure in the body arises, then the thought arises that 'there is constant pressure....', then the 'I' thought arises, then the thought 'this sensation makes me feel me'. NO me anywhere in all this sequence, NONE; only a stream of experience. SEE this, and continue seeing it.Yes, I see that, but there's this constant pressure in the body which clenches my nerves and makes 'me' feel me.Do you notice how you, or the thought of you is not there all the time. For example when you are really engrossed in something, the thought that you are doing this, or you did this, only comes at intervals, ie 'you' are nothing more
than another thought, or thought construct (self image) that arises and dissolves from time to time. Do 'you' see this?
This is a mental position, and mental positions can be 'put to one side' and 'seen past'. Do you want to do that? Do you see that you can do that?I feel impossibility to see this.You' do not aim or own anything, let alone awareness. There is an experience; the 'I' labels it 'mine';
thoughts arise that create a story of what the experience means. Experience has no inherent meaning; all meaning is created by thought stories.
The imaginary character Bartek is writing 'his' stories. Once you begin to see this it is difficult to get sucked in
to the current story.
It's rational, I understand that, but there's a lot of sadness, stupidity and inability to 'surrender' to that fact.
Right, you have no influence on the mind, on what thoughts arise, as 'you' are a thought construction in a thought constructed story. All entirely imaginary. You are not some story book character in some story of your life. You can see that this is a story, so stick with what you SEE. SEE this now and now and now....I know that right now, I'll probably forget that in 10 seconds. I don't have influence on that psyche.But you know that the content of all thought is entirely imaginary, don't you?
'I'm' sucked in this 'miserable'life/story constantly.
I do not want to hear about all your stories of what you are and what you can or cannot do, and what you have, and what you are. You see this is all story don't you. So stop relating stories about yourself and LOOK. Everything is fresh moment to moment. Eyes blinking now... fingers tapping now... backache now... thought about must get birthday card now... scratch nose now...... This is ALL that is happening moment to moment, no experiencer anywhere. SEE this! Continue SEEING this. This is all that is happening. Focus!No, I'm confused, I cannot focus, I have attention deficit disorder. My thoughts are mixed and it depresses me whole the time.A thought is right where it is being thought. The 'I' that is trying to grasp thought is another thought, and thought cannot do anything as it is imaginary. Do 'you' see this?
Completely, utterly, as far as you can go - and further.what do you mean by 'fully' ?Please only reply when you are able to look honestly and fully at where you are.